Silly Season 2020/2021 (starting with silliness in 2019)

[Big Tea]

I am going to put this here because its hearsay, whoever says it.



Starting at about 8 min PW gives his version of what the Ferrari engine saga is about.

[raymondu999]

Well PW’s views are generally well fitted in a thread titled silly lol.

Edit - ok so I’ve listened. And it makes sense, somewhat. A bit conspiracy-y, a bit cynical, and I’m not saying it’s what happened. But I do think it makes sense.

[ENGINE TUNER]

I am going to put this here because its hearsay, whoever says it.



Starting at about 8 min PW gives his version of what the Ferrari engine saga is about.

Which engineers is PW claiming transferred from Ferrari to Merc and how long was their gardening period?

I would think people were fired under Arrivabene and then went to Merc, not that they were let go after the switch to Binotto. The evidence points to Ferrari having been cheating the fuel regs since at least 2017 and possibly earlier.

[PlatinumZealot]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

[Big Tea]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

If being faster than the Ferrari is the target he should go to alfa.

[raymondu999]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

Did he though? Like I mean. Cyril doesnt seem like he's the kind of guy to be able to pull off the jump to make Renault a top car

[Manoah2u]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

Did he though? Like I mean. Cyril doesnt seem like he's the kind of guy to be able to pull off the jump to make Renault a top car

Alonso is

[Racer X]

I am going to put this here because its hearsay, whoever says it.



Starting at about 8 min PW gives his version of what the Ferrari engine saga is about.

Which engineers is PW claiming transferred from Ferrari to Merc and how long was their gardening period?

I would think people were fired under Arrivabene and then went to Merc, not that they were let go after the switch to Binotto. The evidence points to Ferrari having been cheating the fuel regs since at least 2017 and possibly earlier.

Daddy Ecclestone not around to protect Ferrari basically.

[PlatinumZealot]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

Did he though? Like I mean. Cyril doesnt seem like he's the kind of guy to be able to pull off the jump to make Renault a top car

RP really doesn't seem that hot anymore.. And it's either Alfa or Haas that he can go to. If Vettel knew what he knows today he would have courted Cyril shortly after Ferrari announced they'd drop him. I mean right now he's not even scoring podiums much less Seeing points.

[raymondu999]

I think thats a bit of a misnomer, personally. I think RP have worked well in the higher df tracks and that’s where it shines. But it hasn’t found the low df package sweetspot yet.

[raymondu999]

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I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

Did he though? Like I mean. Cyril doesnt seem like he's the kind of guy to be able to pull off the jump to make Renault a top car
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Alonso is
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That assumes Vettel would want to partner Alonso. Which I don’t think he will. Internally all these drivers are very confident and they will feel they can take on anyone and beat them, but I don’t think Seb wants to compete for “team leader” status.

[quote=raymondu999 post_id=922659 time=<a href="tel:1598890959">1598890959</a> user_id=9349]
[quote=PlatinumZealot post_id=922626 time=<a href="tel:1598886344">1598886344</a> user_id=6109]
I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

Did he though? Like I mean. Cyril doesnt seem like he's the kind of guy to be able to pull off the jump to make Renault a top car
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RP really doesn't seem that hot anymore.. And it's either Alfa or Haas that he can go to. If Vettel knew what he knows today he would have courted Cyril shortly after Ferrari announced they'd drop him. I mean right now he's not even scoring podiums much less Seeing points.
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Alfa and Haas I don’t think is even worth mentioning. Vettel wouldn’t take those I think, I believe he would rather get a competitive seat in a different series.

[Manoah2u]

That assumes Vettel would want to partner Alonso. Which I don’t think he will. Internally all these drivers are very confident and they will feel they can take on anyone and beat them, but I don’t think Seb wants to compete for “team leader” status.

First, it was a joke.
Second, Vettel does NOT need to partner Alonso, i merely mentioned Alonso WOULD be capable to bring that car to a podium, it has zilch to do with Vettel or anybody for that matter, especially since it was a joke.

RP really doesn't seem that hot anymore

I completely disagree.
It's a completely expected logical 'evolutionary halt' that RP will have compared to the rest of the field, since it's a car they haven't designed and the philosophy behind it needs to be understood and worked out and it'll have a limited 'engineerable' lifespan. They also don't have the best drivers in the world, some circuits suit some cars better than others, and i'm sure the late critisism on the supposed illegality did not do them too many good either. We haven't seen the last of this yet though, they'll certainly find a better spot in the remainder of the year.
Hell you could argue Mclaren isn't doing good either anymore compared to the start of the season.

That said, it's also an interesting 'excersize' in how to 'steal' a car 'legally', if you may. We haven't seen the last of this either i'm convinced.

[raymondu999]

First, it was a joke.
Second, Vettel does NOT need to partner Alonso, i merely mentioned Alonso WOULD be capable to bring that car to a podium, it has zilch to do with Vettel or anybody for that matter, especially since it was a joke.

Ahhh. No I meant. Even in hindsight, idk if Renault would be a good proposition. I haven’t got much faith in Cyril’s leadership.

[Manoah2u]

First, it was a joke.
Second, Vettel does NOT need to partner Alonso, i merely mentioned Alonso WOULD be capable to bring that car to a podium, it has zilch to do with Vettel or anybody for that matter, especially since it was a joke.

Ahhh. No I meant. Even in hindsight, idk if Renault would be a good proposition. I haven’t got much faith in Cyril’s leadership.

I clearly agree on the Cyril part, he's not the right man for the job, he fits in the line of people like Claire, Kaltenborn, Binotto, Mattiacci etc.

[El Scorchio]

I realise it now!

Vettel royally screwed up by not taking the Renault seat! That car is going to be faster than Ferrari in 2021 for sure.

If being faster than the Ferrari is the target he should go to alfa.

Or just buy a pushbike?