HRT 2012

[AnthonyG]

Congratulations to HRT on not being told "you're too --- to race"... And at only the second race of the year! Well done on becoming the slowest racing team >.<

Having only a filming day, some running in Australia and some running in FP here, I think they do a great job.
Perhaps their car is really good...too soon to say, but it's hopefull progress. =D>

[cbbcisace]

Congratulations to HRT on not being told "you're too --- to race"... And at only the second race of the year! Well done on becoming the slowest racing team >.<

Well done on bashing on this thread...

[cbbcisace]

Dani Clos is contracted to drive quite a few Practice sessions, if HRT have had full pre season, he would have been already in, can see him in from China.. (BTW he will always be in Narain's car)

Liuzzi we will see even less as he is contracted now to race in another race series.

[dice782]

Dani Clos is contracted to drive quite a few Practice sessions, if HRT have had full pre season, he would have been already in, can see him in from China.. (BTW he will always be in Narain's car)

Liuzzi we will see even less as he is contracted now to race in another race series.

Who are Dani's sponsors? It's about time HRT get a major and visible sponsor, this year is critical to the teams survival. I see Cepsa is still sponsoring STR which is strange now they disposed of Jaime.Third year and HRT still have a mountain to climb

[FrukostScones]

In an interview with Perez-Sala I ve read, he said that the design of the monocoque is made by http://www.dash-cae.co.uk/index.html maybe also the production.

[bhall]

23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.914s + 5.742
24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m43.655s + 6.483

How is it possible that Narain Karthikeyan gets Tata money to buy a seat in F1? Are there no better candidates amongst the 1,200,000,000+ people in India from which to choose?

[ESPImperium]

23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.914s + 5.742
24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m43.655s + 6.483

How is it possible that Narain Karthikeyan gets Tata money to buy a seat in F1? Are there no better candidates amongst the 1,200,000,000+ people in India from which to choose?

I think Chandook is a much better driver than Narain but, maybe, he brings less money.

Great work today from the team. Pedro said after qualifying that he had a problem on his second attemp and that's why he only managed one flying lap. He also said that the car was improving a lot


Trocola

Chandhok isnt associated to Tata in any way. Karuns sponsors are Jaypee group, JKTyres and Tag Heuer, his sponsorship decided not to give him a budget for F1 this year to the €8m Nairn is bringing. Karun had €5m to €6m avalable, whitch buys a decent LMP seat, whitch he is now driving in the WEC.

I aggree Nairn would have been better, but personally id have put in a younger driver that can bring the budget that has F1 experience. id have tried to get D'Ambrosio. The HRT team did try to get Jamie Alguersauri, but he decided against the step, as Red Bull were ready to give him a decent severance package if he took a seat in a lower team than Toro Rosso. I think he posibly has done the wrong thing. But less of this, as this should be in the HRT 2012 thread i think.

They are improving, they have a open test session tomorrow, lets see what they can do.

[dice782]

23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.914s + 5.742
24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m43.655s + 6.483

How is it possible that Narain Karthikeyan gets Tata money to buy a seat in F1? Are there no better candidates amongst the 1,200,000,000+ people in India from which to choose?

I think Chandook is a much better driver than Narain but, maybe, he brings less money.

Great work today from the team. Pedro said after qualifying that he had a problem on his second attemp and that's why he only managed one flying lap. He also said that the car was improving a lot


Trocola

It's funny you mention Karun, some one on the other forums I visit was making a comparison and calculated that HRT's fastest ever lap was done by Karun in Valencia.Don't there companies make any kind of evaluation of which driver they support?

[akash1229]

Ok I was following this page for a long time but made an account finally only to respond to the naivety and stupidity of some people here.

Firstly, most of the guys dont watch all sessions here and only bother to check standings.

If you watched qualifying and live timing, you would have noticed that Narain was setting similar times on his last run but out braked himself in the last corner and almost lost it - this is because of the braking problems he was facing in his car. google it.

Check live timings and see lap times. In fact he was faster than Pedro by half a second both in P1 and P2.

with regards to Karun being faster...Have you guys seen Karun race with Narain ever? In Nissan/Telefonica Series and A1 GP. Narain owned him..by far and beyond.

Did you see why he didnt get the seat at Caterham despite being destined to as a result of his links with Bernie? Because he did a mockery of the race chances he got and he even spun and crashed the car.

I have noticed this forum is well informed and most users know what they are talking.. well only most yet not all

[bhall]

Firstly, most of the guys dont watch all sessions here and only bother to check standings.

In all fairness, you don't have to watch Narain Karthikeyan intently to realize that his record of F1 "achievement," if such a word is even applicable, is sub-sub-standard at best. He is the poster child for anyone who has anything negative to say about pay drivers.

(I guess it could be worse. Honda financed an entire team so that Takuma Sato could remain in F1.)

[cbbcisace]

Narain on the BBC Forum stating that upgrades at the Mugello tests and hopes to gain time until then onto the Marussias.

Also they are using the Mercedes Wind tunnel a lot (Im guessing the 2nd one)

[donskar]

Also, today it was a good race. Both cars ended just two laps back. It's a good result.

Do you realize what you are saying? What a sad commentary on the state of this team and perhaps F1 as well: "two laps back" is "a good result"!?

[xDama]

Fact of the matter is that HRT is still in exactly the same -poor- place as they did, 2 years ago.

So you can say that their progress in 2 years has been absolutely none. The only real thing they do the last 3 seasons, is driving in the way of faster drivers.

[Trocola]

Fact of the matter is that HRT is still in exactly the same -poor- place as they did, 2 years ago.

So you can say that their progress in 2 years has been absolutely none. The only real thing they do the last 3 seasons, is driving in the way of faster drivers.

You can say exactly the same about Mercedes AMG... expending 5 times the money HRT has

We all know that HRT is not going to win the WCC. But, for this year, they seem to have a better approach than just do laps. They have a good driver, they have a base... it seems that they are taking the right steps, and that's why I wish them a good season and I become a fan of them.

About the car, with nearly 3 weeks until China, i hope they can start solving all the issues with the car. Pedro said he had a problem with the fuel pump. They will be able to solve those small issues with the car and do a proper GP friday, working on setup, not just doing laps to understand the car.


Trocola

[xDama]

Fact of the matter is that HRT is still in exactly the same -poor- place as they did, 2 years ago.

So you can say that their progress in 2 years has been absolutely none. The only real thing they do the last 3 seasons, is driving in the way of faster drivers.

You can say exactly the same about Mercedes AMG... expending 5 times the money HRT has

We all know that HRT is not going to win the WCC. But, for this year, they seem to have a better approach than just do laps. They have a good driver, they have a base... it seems that they are taking the right steps, and that's why I wish them a good season and I become a fan of them.

About the car, with nearly 3 weeks until China, i hope they can start solving all the issues with the car. Pedro said he had a problem with the fuel pump. They will be able to solve those small issues with the car and do a proper GP friday, working on setup, not just doing laps to understand the car.


Trocola

With the big difference that Mercedes is scoring points (until now not much, but they'll surely score enough points this year) and that it's a team that adds value to the grid.

I'm very sorry for HRT, but after 3 years they are still the same unprofessional, random team that they were when entering in 2010. I gave them credit in 2010 and was eventually quite impressed with what they 'did' that year. I thought it would be better in 2011 and things improved a tiny bit.

But failing to join the winter-testing, assembling a car in time for the first GP-practise, and barely getting within 107% in qualif this year... Nah, I've kinda had it with this team. If it were a completely new car, I'd give it some credit, but if you look at the 2012 it's, 99% the same from the 2011-car.

And the fact that they even gave Karthikeyan (imo top 5 of the worst drivers in recent years) ANOTHER season F1, due to all of his money, is beyond me.