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LM10 wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 19:34
Development for 2022 was frozen by the time the teams were developing their 2021 cars. Considering that, not using any token for 2021 could have not given them an extra advantage for 2022.
It's not that simple, because the cars will still have lots of generalized aero carry over. For example engine cover shaping, nose stuff etc. For stuff like that the FIA has no way of knowing what car the work is ultimately intended for.
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dans79 wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 22:07
LM10 wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 19:34
Development for 2022 was frozen by the time the teams were developing their 2021 cars. Considering that, not using any token for 2021 could have not given them an extra advantage for 2022.
It's not that simple, because the cars will still have lots of generalized aero carry over. For example engine cover shaping, nose stuff etc. For stuff like that the FIA has no way of knowing what car the work is ultimately intended for.
What I remember, Mercedes stopped the normal development of their 2020 car as soon as it was clear that they had a good enough lead (around the first few races) and had their 2021 car ready later that season. They made sure that as much of the costs for 2021 could be booked in 2020 and go next level with efficiency, as going so far as not only using the same chassis designs, but the actual chassis.
During the 2020 season, aero work for 2022 was banned, but the rest wasn't. In theory they could have had a few rolling chassis of the 2022 car in 2020 on the basis of the early aero work before the freeze, and picking up full speed in jan 1 2021.

Of course, most teams, especially the top teams did this in some extent, but the lead Mercedes had in 2020 possibly give them an extra advantage going into 2022.

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Jolle wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 22:30
dans79 wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 22:07
LM10 wrote:
02 Feb 2022, 19:34
Development for 2022 was frozen by the time the teams were developing their 2021 cars. Considering that, not using any token for 2021 could have not given them an extra advantage for 2022.
It's not that simple, because the cars will still have lots of generalized aero carry over. For example engine cover shaping, nose stuff etc. For stuff like that the FIA has no way of knowing what car the work is ultimately intended for.
What I remember, Mercedes stopped the normal development of their 2020 car as soon as it was clear that they had a good enough lead (around the first few races) and had their 2021 car ready later that season. They made sure that as much of the costs for 2021 could be booked in 2020 and go next level with efficiency, as going so far as not only using the same chassis designs, but the actual chassis.
During the 2020 season, aero work for 2022 was banned, but the rest wasn't. In theory they could have had a few rolling chassis of the 2022 car in 2020 on the basis of the early aero work before the freeze, and picking up full speed in jan 1 2021.

Of course, most teams, especially the top teams did this in some extent, but the lead Mercedes had in 2020 possibly give them an extra advantage going into 2022.
This would be a good discussion to revisit after the first race and see how much all of this played a role or not, in terms of where Mercedes would stand in the pecking order.
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For his driving and his own well-being, it’s good to see him in a positive headspace. He needs it to rejuvenate himself after Abu Dhabi and look at 2022 with the vitality of a hungry winner with eagerness to go for it. He will need it against his teammate George and definitely anyone else in Ferrari, Alpine, Red Bull etc


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AeroDynamic wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 22:34
For his driving and his own well-being, it’s good to see him in a positive headspace. He needs it to rejuvenate himself after Abu Dhabi and look at 2022 with the vitality of a hungry winner with eagerness to go for it. He will need it against his teammate George and definitely anyone else in Ferrari, Alpine, Red Bull etc

Can anyone really blame him for taking a well earned break after such an intense season? On top of that, you only have to look at reply’s too social media posts about/by him too understand why he maintained a silence post AD.

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Csmith1980 wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 23:00
AeroDynamic wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 22:34
For his driving and his own well-being, it’s good to see him in a positive headspace. He needs it to rejuvenate himself after Abu Dhabi and look at 2022 with the vitality of a hungry winner with eagerness to go for it. He will need it against his teammate George and definitely anyone else in Ferrari, Alpine, Red Bull etc

Can anyone really blame him for taking a well earned break after such an intense season? On top of that, you only have to look at reply’s too social media posts about/by him too understand why he maintained a silence post AD.
And Still, He Rises!

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Zynerji wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 23:29
Csmith1980 wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 23:00
AeroDynamic wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 22:34
For his driving and his own well-being, it’s good to see him in a positive headspace. He needs it to rejuvenate himself after Abu Dhabi and look at 2022 with the vitality of a hungry winner with eagerness to go for it. He will need it against his teammate George and definitely anyone else in Ferrari, Alpine, Red Bull etc

Can anyone really blame him for taking a well earned break after such an intense season? On top of that, you only have to look at reply’s too social media posts about/by him too understand why he maintained a silence post AD.
And Still, He Rises!
Who knows 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Skipping the gala, and the media silence is also a good gesture for Max. It gives Max space to enjoy his time in limelight without undue controversy.
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I.m confident the car will suit Lewis driving style like the w11 did ✅✅✅

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Feb 2022, 02:02
Skipping the gala, and the media silence is also a good gesture for Max. It gives Max space to enjoy his time in limelight without undue controversy.
So much spin on that perspective that it made me dizzy reading it 😂😵💫😵💫
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