Do you want Refueling back?

[WhiteBlue]

Bin the tyre rules together with park fermé, wing gimmicks and refueling. Allow ground effect with a spec floor and wings with very little downforce. Control the downforce in the wing struts and you have racing as we had it in 1980. Simple and effective.

[flynfrog]

Bin the tyre rules together with park fermé, wing gimmicks and refueling. Allow ground effect with a spec floor and wings with very little downforce. Control the downforce in the wing struts and you have racing as we had it in 1980. Simple and effective.

why stop there when we could go back to roman chariots.

[WhiteBlue]

Bin the tyre rules together with park fermé, wing gimmicks and refueling. Allow ground effect with a spec floor and wings with very little downforce. Control the downforce in the wing struts and you have racing as we had it in 1980. Simple and effective.

why stop there when we could go back to roman chariots.

No engines in those carts and the sporting rules were a bit barbaric for my taste. But 1980 was fantastic. The cars were overpowered at 600 hp and nobody was taking Copse or Eau Rouge flat out.

[flynfrog]

Bin the tyre rules together with park fermé, wing gimmicks and refueling. Allow ground effect with a spec floor and wings with very little downforce. Control the downforce in the wing struts and you have racing as we had it in 1980. Simple and effective.

why stop there when we could go back to roman chariots.

No engines in those carts and the sporting rules were a bit barbaric for my taste. But 1980 was fantastic. The cars were overpowered at 600 hp and nobody was taking Copse or Eau Rouge flat out.

they were full bio engines I figured you would be all over that.

I agree the power to DF balance makes todays cars different but not necessarily bad just different. I would rather double the power and cut the tires in half.

[myurr]

Bin the tyre rules together with park fermé, wing gimmicks and refueling. Allow ground effect with a spec floor and wings with very little downforce. Control the downforce in the wing struts and you have racing as we had it in 1980. Simple and effective.

+1

Regardless of whether or not there was actually more overtaking (I believe that there was at least more opportunity) before the aero got too ridiculous the cars were visibly much harder to drive, and drivers made more mistakes because of this. This is where the opportunity to overtake came from and it allowed the best drivers to overcome deficiencies in their machines, at least to a greater degree than we see today.

F1 has never been perfect, but it has been a lot more exhilarating to watch in the past than the current machines manage with all their downforce and super sticky last forever tyres.

[Giblet]

They should program the cars to miss occasional gear shifts, and reintroduce traction control so they can create random instances of wheel spin.

[aniyew]

They should program the cars to miss occasional gear shifts, and reintroduce traction control so they can create random instances of wheel spin.

Sounds like a russian roulette = dangerous

I think they should keep ban on refueling, and just make two pits during a race mandatory, also less downforce would help to make a better show. Hope new rear wings in 2011 will help.

[Giblet]

Yes danger I was make joke.

[komninosm]

They should program the cars to miss occasional gear shifts, and reintroduce traction control so they can create random instances of wheel spin.

Sounds like a russian roulette = dangerous

I think they should keep ban on refueling, and just make two pits during a race mandatory, also less downforce would help to make a better show. Hope new rear wings in 2011 will help.

Why make anything (like that) mandatory? Just have your car, your tires, your fuel and 305 km to race with ANY strategy up to you. Free market of strategies.

[ringo]

A strong case on JamesAllen F1 on refueling:
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/

Things are too uniform without refueling. Same thing will happen next year.
All cars will treat the tyres the same, and run the 2 stops at the same intervals.

Give me low fuel qualifying with refueling.

The cars should have Stronger KERS increasing with magnitude as the the grid spot gets lower.
The same happens as the cars change place during the race.

The guy coming dead last should have KERS 3 times as strong as the guy in first, ballast removed to bring the cars to equal weight.

[aniyew]

In 2010 most teams used one stop strategy with was very boring for me. Hope Pirelli tyres will have "shorter" life time and 2stops strategy will pay back for drivers.

Stronger KERS for cars with lower grid position is only a wish none team would agre to that. They develop cars to get faster than others and will not give any oportnity to back markers for catch up....

All cars are equal weight(after race) mostly thanks to balast, now days driver trying to lost weight to be able to cary more balast (Alonso, Kubica, Barichelo)with help balance a car even beter...

[WhiteBlue]

A strong case on JamesAllen F1 on refueling:
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/.

This guy has forgotten that racing is not about stopping. Why create an artificial show if you can have the real thing. I hope from 2013 all the artificial show elements will be unnecessary.

[Tamburello]

A strong case on JamesAllen F1 on refueling:
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/.

This guy has forgotten that racing is not about stopping. Why create an artificial show if you can have the real thing. I hope from 2013 all the artificial show elements will be unnecessary.

I tend to agree. I would like to see all mandatory stops removed.

[Rob01]

WB, it shouldn't be about fuel mileage. The car should be allowed to run WFO. What is the point of a RACE with fuel mileage and weight the determining factor. The fact is F1 has dummied down to control cost and now we have a spec series. And come 2013 it will be the closest to a spec series that F1 has ever been. Let them re-fuel and at least run the cars at full tilt. Give the team something to actually do beside stand there and gawk.

[myurr]

A strong case on JamesAllen F1 on refueling:
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/

Things are too uniform without refueling. Same thing will happen next year.
All cars will treat the tyres the same, and run the 2 stops at the same intervals.

Give me low fuel qualifying with refueling.

2004 had refuelling and yet I remember it being a spectacularly boring year in terms of racing. Blaming any shortcomings of 2010 on a lack of refuelling is disingenuous when there were clearly bigger factors at play - namely the tyres (remember how exciting Canada was?), adjustable front wings being used to counteract balance issues due to changing fuel loads (quote from Jenson: http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=49764), the dominance of the Red Bull car (much like 2004 with the Ferrari), and the general aero problems of the cars being unable to closely race each other (wake problems, too short braking distances, etc.).

Fix those issues and then if the racing is somehow still boring we can start talking about refuelling being the answer.

The cars should have Stronger KERS increasing with magnitude as the the grid spot gets lower.
The same happens as the cars change place during the race.

The guy coming dead last should have KERS 3 times as strong as the guy in first.

Absolutely absurd, an idea straight out of Mario Kart!