2025 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Same issue as today - performance out clauses. If the car isn't performing then he can trigger an out clause and go to another team.

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kptaylor wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 17:43
Same issue as today - performance out clauses. If the car isn't performing then he can trigger an out clause and go to another team.
These usually have penalty clauses involved, is it not better to know what you get and be in a better position the following year?
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:-k


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Big Tea wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 17:06
Many are mentioning a multi-year deal for max as a reason he will not move. Is there any good reason for him to commit anywhere for long term?

For instance if he went to Merc, he has no guarantee the car will not be a dog even if the engine is the best, and if he has a 3 year deal he can not switch to (maybe) Aston, which if nothing else would mean the choice of anther year single deal and the ability to switch back to Merc if they sort it or maybe back to Red Bull should they have the best car at the time.

It may well be the better option long term not to be committed.
That makes sense from Max's perspective, but not from Merc's.

Why would Mercedes oust one of their long term drivers and sign Max on a deal he could get out of in just one or two seasons?

I can't imagine Merc agreeing to anything less than a guaranteed 2 years.

Your point about Aston is precisely why it would be logical for Max to keep his options open until next year.
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Lasssept wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:59
:-k

Is this Toto on the air mattress in the middle swimming towards the black yacht?
Really looks like him...
Don`t russel the hamster!

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Is that Flav on the beach in a thong?
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basti313 wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 14:49
Is this Toto on the air mattress in the middle swimming towards the black yacht?
Really looks like him...
:)
Toto Wolff purchased the Mangusta 165 yacht for $27 milion (as per Superyacht Fan) in 2023. The ship was originally called "UU", but Wolff renamed it "V".

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Lasssept wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 15:36
basti313 wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 14:49
Is this Toto on the air mattress in the middle swimming towards the black yacht?
Really looks like him...
:)
Toto Wolff purchased the Mangusta 165 yacht for $27 milion (as per Superyacht Fan) in 2023. The ship was originally called "UU", but Wolff renamed it "V".
"V" for "Vag...."??? :wtf:

Hopefully they do not crash. Would be not good if Toto's V is getting penetrated by the Verstappen clan even before they have a contract...

By the way:
Is that pink pixeled thing in the picture Susie watching Toto swim towards the black yacht?
Big Tea wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 15:26
Is that Flav on the beach in a thong?
This is the Merc thread. Please stay serious and keep it on topic.
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If this is a real image, it’s a crazy coincidence that both Toto’s and Max’s yacht are next to each other for no reason :lol: :lol:

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Imagine the reaction when it turns out that Max and Toto both leant their yachts to other people 😂 😂 😂
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 21:56
Imagine the reaction when it turns out that Max and Toto both leant their yachts to other people 😂 😂 😂
Ah ah yes but they don’t do that.

They don’t need to so… sonthey keep their Yacht for F&F which I fully understand and agree