2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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diffuser wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 06:06

Apparently not... https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1089 ... shuffle
Andy Cowell was the Group CEO and Director of AMR before he resigned as director, stepping down as CEO to become Chief Strategy Officer. How motivating can this new role be for Andy compared to being CEO?

What triggered his sudden resignation can't possibly be pleasant. give it till Jun 2026 and we can revisit this again.

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The financials already looked pretty sketchy but they look absolutely horrifying in the context of potentially being last on the grid. Stroll is rich but he’s not “tech-billionaire” rich. If they don’t turn this around very soon, like middle of the season, I smell a sale coming.

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Question is, would any theoretical new owners keep the AM name etc??
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It'll be called "Honda F1" (uh-oh, I better go and hide).

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CHT wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 07:35
diffuser wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 06:06

Apparently not... https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1089 ... shuffle
Andy Cowell was the Group CEO and Director of AMR before he resigned as director, stepping down as CEO to become Chief Strategy Officer. How motivating can this new role be for Andy compared to being CEO?

What triggered his sudden resignation can't possibly be pleasant. give it till Jun 2026 and we can revisit this again.
Maybe or maybe he's TP again then after pulling Honda out of the doldrums.

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 12:37
Question is, would any theoretical new owners keep the AM name etc??
Lawrence Stroll is purchasing the Aston Martin Formula 1 team's naming rights for £50million. So unless they are willing to pay to buy it then they will need to change the name.


Saudi Arabia F1 team or some variation of it.

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Nikosar wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 13:10
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 12:37
Question is, would any theoretical new owners keep the AM name etc??
Lawrence Stroll is purchasing the Aston Martin Formula 1 team's naming rights for £50million. So unless they are willing to pay to buy it then they will need to change the name.


Saudi Arabia F1 team or some variation of it.
Aramco F1

How good would it be if the Saudi Jordanian Investment Fund bought the team and renamed it as Jordan F1 lol

In all seriousness though, I don’t see Stroll Sr walking away any time soon. Stroll Jr on the other hand…..
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The F1 team itself is very valuable.. based on the recent valuations from other teams.. and the original price paid for Force India... However this would be minus anything already borrowed or leveraged against it. I always felt the F1 team would end up being the financial driver for the road car brand.. there is value in the naming rights and brands too, and he could decide to sell off more assets or IP. Weakening demand worldwide for cars fuelled by financial and legislative storms has hit a lot of car makers, Tariffs on UK exports to US another example. Im hoping Aston can weather the storm, but I too can see a part sale or something likely to Middle East or Chinese investment groups. The race team should be reasonably safe throughout all this, and there even is a future where Aston Road cars don't exist - but the race team still does.. If F1 continues to grow its profile and reach. Either way the team needs to start doing well, and that is obvious given the investment in the WIndtunnel - new buildings and talent acquisition (Newey).. so let's hope. Race 3 in Japan, if the car is floundering, it will be a big punch in the gut.. It could potentially scare off Honda again.. but this tine, there isn't a junior team to give the engine to - in order to develop this for a year.. We all remember the Toro Rosso/alphatauri/Bulls cars having ridiculous grid penalties during that first season with Honda as they effectively used that team as a test bed for Redbull to take the engine the year after.. in summary - there is def pressure to get things right quickly as there is no-where to hide.
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PowerandtheGlory wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 14:00
The F1 team itself is very valuable.. based on the recent valuations from other teams.. and the original price paid for Force India... However this would be minus anything already borrowed or leveraged against it. I always felt the F1 team would end up being the financial driver for the road car brand.. there is value in the naming rights and brands too, and he could decide to sell off more assets or IP. Weakening demand worldwide for cars fuelled by financial and legislative storms has hit a lot of car makers, Tariffs on UK exports to US another example. Im hoping Aston can weather the storm, but I too can see a part sale or something likely to Middle East or Chinese investment groups. The race team should be reasonably safe throughout all this, and there even is a future where Aston Road cars don't exist - but the race team still does.. If F1 continues to grow its profile and reach. Either way the team needs to start doing well, and that is obvious given the investment in the WIndtunnel - new buildings and talent acquisition (Newey).. so let's hope. Race 3 in Japan, if the car is floundering, it will be a big punch in the gut.. It could potentially scare off Honda again.. but this tine, there isn't a junior team to give the engine to - in order to develop this for a year.. We all remember the Toro Rosso/alphatauri/Bulls cars having ridiculous grid penalties during that first season with Honda as they effectively used that team as a test bed for Redbull to take the engine the year after.. in summary - there is def pressure to get things right quickly as there is no-where to hide.
In fact, there are people here who are predicting a tenth place in the constructors' championship. This simply can't happen; the entire team (sponsors, merchandising, etc.) would collapse.

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Leon Kennedy wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 15:34
PowerandtheGlory wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 14:00
The F1 team itself is very valuable.. based on the recent valuations from other teams.. and the original price paid for Force India... However this would be minus anything already borrowed or leveraged against it. I always felt the F1 team would end up being the financial driver for the road car brand.. there is value in the naming rights and brands too, and he could decide to sell off more assets or IP. Weakening demand worldwide for cars fuelled by financial and legislative storms has hit a lot of car makers, Tariffs on UK exports to US another example. Im hoping Aston can weather the storm, but I too can see a part sale or something likely to Middle East or Chinese investment groups. The race team should be reasonably safe throughout all this, and there even is a future where Aston Road cars don't exist - but the race team still does.. If F1 continues to grow its profile and reach. Either way the team needs to start doing well, and that is obvious given the investment in the WIndtunnel - new buildings and talent acquisition (Newey).. so let's hope. Race 3 in Japan, if the car is floundering, it will be a big punch in the gut.. It could potentially scare off Honda again.. but this tine, there isn't a junior team to give the engine to - in order to develop this for a year.. We all remember the Toro Rosso/alphatauri/Bulls cars having ridiculous grid penalties during that first season with Honda as they effectively used that team as a test bed for Redbull to take the engine the year after.. in summary - there is def pressure to get things right quickly as there is no-where to hide.
In fact, there are people here who are predicting a tenth place in the constructors' championship. This simply can't happen; the entire team (sponsors, merchandising, etc.) would collapse.
Depends on how they finish the year. if they finish they same way they started the year it would be a disaster. If they finish the year with a car that is contending for podiums, it's different. Context matters

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Badger wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 09:06
The financials already looked pretty sketchy but they look absolutely horrifying in the context of potentially being last on the grid. Stroll is rich but he’s not “tech-billionaire” rich. If they don’t turn this around very soon, like middle of the season, I smell a sale coming.
I don't pretend to understand the Financials. I presume alot of the loses include the money being spend on the 3 buildings and their contents, about £200 million. In others words they will not be incurred forever.

With regards to the In March 2024, Aston Martin Lagonda refinanced its debt by issuing new Senior Secured Notes:
• ~US $960 million at 10.00% interest and
• £400 million at 10.375% interest,
both due 2029.

Aston Martin Lagonda is a separate company from AMR GP, which is the F1 team. AMR GP don't have any outstanding loans.

Aside from naming rights the only thing they have in common is that Lawrence Stroll / Yew Tree Consortium. Lawrence Stroll / Yew Tree Consortium owns more that 50% of AMR GP(F1 team), it's not really known how much more than 50% that Yew Tree owns in total. Yew Tree owns something like 25% of Aston Martin Lagonda (the car company). In my humble opinion if Aston Martin Lagonda goes belly up it has no impact on the AMR GP, aside that Lawrence and Yew tree will be pissed at the loss and the F1 team's name might change.
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When a Team face trouble on the track, people start digging all kind of dirt. All these issues will vanish ,as soon as car starts performing.

I dont see any reason for AM to participate in the 1st race. With so many issues with Honda Engine & Battery ; what's the point in running the car at GP?

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NAPI10 wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 17:01
When a Team face trouble on the track, people start digging all kind of dirt. All these issues will vanish ,as soon as car starts performing.

I dont see any reason for AM to participate in the 1st race. With so many issues with Honda Engine & Battery ; what's the point in running the car at GP?
Aren't there penalties for skipping races? I imagine they'll treat it as a test session

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NAPI10 wrote:
25 Feb 2026, 17:01
I dont see any reason for AM to participate in the 1st race. With so many issues with Honda Engine & Battery ; what's the point in running the car at GP?
Teams Are Contractually Obligated to Compete ; Skipping a race without an approved reason is considered a breach of contract ( with FIA and FOM ) , and they will face heavy financial penalties

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Team sponsors would not like them skipping races either there would be some kind of financial penalty.