2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Sedaxel wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:38
RedNEO wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:35
Sedaxel wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:31
More than sabotage, I think they were scared of losing the position they were in. Panic blinded them, and made them not to listen to Alonso.

That's what I want to think... Because sabotage is a strong theory too. So sad...
I sincerely hope it’s not sabotaging but something in my gut just urged me to say it like I saw it!
Yeah. They are making it hard not to think about sabotage, honestly.
You just only need to hear all radios from between Alonso and his engineer. The engineer had a hard time trying to explain why they re not pitting

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Alonso and Lawson summoned to the Stewards now in 7 minutes.

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It's clear what's happening is that internally, it must be leaking that Max is available for 2026, and Alonso must have some kind of performance clause that if he gets left behind by Stroll, they can drop him without any penalty. It's unbelievable to think of another reason. I knew this team was incompetent, but today's events defy all logic.

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I fully expect minimal penalty for Lawson if at all despite the fact that they penalized Max for leaving the track in a similar incident last race.

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TyreSlip wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:24
diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:17
TyreSlip wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:13
Isn't Chris Cronin, Alonso's former engineer, the head of race strategy now? How did he mess this one up so badly?
It's not as easy a decision as you think, early on if they would have pitted, they would have gone to last. if the other cars don't pit you need to pass 10 cars to get back to where you are.

A pit stop is 20 seconds ...you need to make up that time in 10 laps or fewer.
Hamilton was immediately 3 seconds faster on slicks, and the track was quickly getting faster. Alonso even asked to pit and was denied. It was not a hard decision.
Doesn't matter, a big reason Ham ended where he did was cause of the safety car. If aalo would have waited one more laps(pitting under safety car) he would have finished ahead of ham.

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Btw, the pace was there, can we expect a good qualy or back to the back of the grid?

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Again & again ...
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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krich wrote:
03 May 2025, 20:55
Btw, the pace was there, can we expect a good qualy or back to the back of the grid?
If we have mixed weather conditions then anything can happen, if not on pure pace we are still a bit behind.

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peewon wrote:
03 May 2025, 20:06
I fully expect minimal penalty for Lawson if at all despite the fact that they penalized Max for leaving the track in a similar incident last race.
Cause of the way the race ended, even 5 seconds knocks Lawson out of the points.

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Decision 5 second time penalty imposed after the Sprint.
1 penalty points (total of 6 for the 12 month period).
Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 14 (Fernando Alonso), the driver of Car
30 (Liam Lawson), team representatives and reviewed video and in-car video
evidence.
Car 30 was attempting an overtake on the outside of Car 14 into Turn 11. Although
being able to pull fully alongside, the front axle of Car 30 was not ahead of the front
axle of Car 14 at the apex as required per the Driving Standards Guidelines.
Therefore Car 30 was not entitled to be given room at the exit. Due to the layout of
the track, the car which has the right to the racing line in Turn 11 also has the right to
the racing line in Turn 12.
Car 30 drove to the very edge of the track between Turns 11 and 12 and collided with
Car 14 on the approach to Turn 12. The Stewards determine that Car 30 was
predominantly at fault and therefore consider a 5 seconds penalty to be appropriate
taking into account the track conditions.

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FNTC wrote:
03 May 2025, 22:02
Decision 5 second time penalty imposed after the Sprint.
1 penalty points (total of 6 for the 12 month period).
Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 14 (Fernando Alonso), the driver of Car
30 (Liam Lawson), team representatives and reviewed video and in-car video
evidence.
Car 30 was attempting an overtake on the outside of Car 14 into Turn 11. Although
being able to pull fully alongside, the front axle of Car 30 was not ahead of the front
axle of Car 14 at the apex as required per the Driving Standards Guidelines.
Therefore Car 30 was not entitled to be given room at the exit. Due to the layout of
the track, the car which has the right to the racing line in Turn 11 also has the right to
the racing line in Turn 12.
Car 30 drove to the very edge of the track between Turns 11 and 12 and collided with
Car 14 on the approach to Turn 12. The Stewards determine that Car 30 was
predominantly at fault and therefore consider a 5 seconds penalty to be appropriate
taking into account the track conditions.
I hope it drops him out of the points, there many other penalties.

Oh yeah, it will drop him to 15th.
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FNTC wrote:
03 May 2025, 22:02
Decision 5 second time penalty imposed after the Sprint.
1 penalty points (total of 6 for the 12 month period).
Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 14 (Fernando Alonso), the driver of Car
30 (Liam Lawson), team representatives and reviewed video and in-car video
evidence.
Car 30 was attempting an overtake on the outside of Car 14 into Turn 11. Although
being able to pull fully alongside, the front axle of Car 30 was not ahead of the front
axle of Car 14 at the apex as required per the Driving Standards Guidelines.
Therefore Car 30 was not entitled to be given room at the exit. Due to the layout of
the track, the car which has the right to the racing line in Turn 11 also has the right to
the racing line in Turn 12.
Car 30 drove to the very edge of the track between Turns 11 and 12 and collided with
Car 14 on the approach to Turn 12. The Stewards determine that Car 30 was
predominantly at fault and therefore consider a 5 seconds penalty to be appropriate
taking into account the track conditions.
The Spanish commentary team wanted a jail sentence

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Nikosar wrote:
03 May 2025, 22:09
FNTC wrote:
03 May 2025, 22:02
Decision 5 second time penalty imposed after the Sprint.
1 penalty points (total of 6 for the 12 month period).
Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 14 (Fernando Alonso), the driver of Car
30 (Liam Lawson), team representatives and reviewed video and in-car video
evidence.
Car 30 was attempting an overtake on the outside of Car 14 into Turn 11. Although
being able to pull fully alongside, the front axle of Car 30 was not ahead of the front
axle of Car 14 at the apex as required per the Driving Standards Guidelines.
Therefore Car 30 was not entitled to be given room at the exit. Due to the layout of
the track, the car which has the right to the racing line in Turn 11 also has the right to
the racing line in Turn 12.
Car 30 drove to the very edge of the track between Turns 11 and 12 and collided with
Car 14 on the approach to Turn 12. The Stewards determine that Car 30 was
predominantly at fault and therefore consider a 5 seconds penalty to be appropriate
taking into account the track conditions.
The Spanish commentary team wanted a jail sentence
ROFL

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Lance got 5th due to Albon getting time penalty for going too slowly behind safety car.

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Lance is going to pass to history as the driver with more undeserved points... LOL... Good for him. At least some air for the team.