Ferrari 150° Italia

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Different sidepod/cooling arrangement as well.

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Ferrari are storing the information of their exhaust. This looks similar to what we saw at Abu Dhabi


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Finally we get to see the back of this car.

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raymondu999 wrote:I'd think that would cancel itself out. McLaren/RBR don't pay for R&D of their engines, but I'm quite sure that Ferrari builds their F1 engines entirely separately (as an entity) from the Scuderia Ferrari racing team. Also, McLaren/RBR would have to pay for their engines - Ferrari gets theirs free.

Vertical integration of business operations, except for exceptional circumstances, would always lead to a net gain.
No. Definitely not "always." It's been a long time since my MBA work, but I do remember a l-o-o-o-ng seminar on integration. Vertical integration is often a big negative.
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill

JMN
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Indeed. The optimal configuration of firm boundaries is somewhat more complex than "vertical integration (...) will always lead to a net gain" gives it credit for. Check for example "Designing the Boundaries of the Firm: From "Make, Buy, or Ally" to the Dynamic Benefits of Vertical Architecture" (Jacobides & Billinger, 2006).

Transaction cost economics considerations will show you the very basic internal and external trade-offs from vertical integration. Yes, vertical integration gives better synchronization and lower transaction costs, but comes at the cost of higher risk, coordination costs and lowered performance incentive - just to name a few. Knowledge perspectives on organizations and networks offers additional insights.

Going off topic, sorry.

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Ferrari have apparently tested a new material for their floor in brazil, and it was successful. they used zircotech on the F150 floor. And Prodromou could change from RBR to Ferrari
Source : Gazetta Dello Sport

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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:
Ferrari have apparently tested a new material for their floor in brazil, and it was successful. they used zircotech on the F150 floor. And Prodromou could change from RBR to Ferrari
Source : Gazetta Dello Sport
I wonder what they mean by 'floor'? The plank must be of a particular material, specified by FIA, and the floor of the tub is a homologated part that must be crash tested.
Maybe Zircotech was used as a coating on rear extension to diffuser, and some reporter got a little confused?

Any more info?

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But why would they test zircotech on the floor? They cant blow the floor with exhaust next year.

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+1 gilgen

Zircotec has really good heat properties making it ideal for Areas where you are suffering heat damage/transfer.

How will this be applicable in 2012 with ebd banned?

Prodromou to Ferrari? Coveted maybe, but im sure he's well settled a red bull.
More could have been done.
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New material for the floor does not automatically imply zircotec.
Should'n it look grey-white?

gazzetta sometimes is erratic (or well instructed to smoke and mirrors)
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shelly wrote:New material for the floor does not automatically imply zircotec.
Should'n it look grey-white?

gazzetta sometimes is erratic (or well instructed to smoke and mirrors)
Hmm I m wondering wich other material will be usefull for the flor structure?? Any sugestions???

Maybe they want to reinforce the flor panel or they want make a bending_/flexing florr???

So maybe is the case in flexing all (expecially front flor) I draw picture to show what i mean:

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First the flexing front splitter like red bull style and flexing under sipe pods lip... All this will improve the ground wing efect...like movable front wing to produce better ground efect!!!
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flexing in front of rear wheels is also very important

New material: maybe spread tow carbon, they have used it already elsewhere, or some hybrid type fiber (a la carbon zylon)
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shelly wrote:flexing in front of rear wheels is also very important

New material: maybe spread tow carbon, they have used it already elsewhere, or some hybrid type fiber (a la carbon zylon)
Zylon?? That is ideally for flex flor beacuse:

Zylon has 5.8 GPa of tensile strength, which is 1.6 times higher than that of Kevlar. Like Kevlar, Zylon is used in a number of applications that require very high strength with excellent thermal stability. Tennis racquets, table tennis blades, various medical applications etc.
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From thescuderia.net:

Tests conducted by Ferrari during the Grand Prix Brazil free have been satisfactory, especially on the floor of the car.
It has experimented with a new material (apparently the F150 was Zircotech) covering the entire area where it will installed the engine.
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Mazdaboy wrote:From thescuderia.net:

Tests conducted by Ferrari during the Grand Prix Brazil free have been satisfactory, especially on the floor of the car.
It has experimented with a new material (apparently the F150 was Zircotech) covering the entire area where it will installed the engine.
That makes sense - so they can make a thinner floor underneath the exhaust because thy won't have to put some thick insulation (where thick is a few mm, but "every mm counts!")
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