2021 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 25 - 27

[PlatinumZealot]

Can we get a seperate thread for Naruto's rants?

Who or what is a Naruto?

[foxmulder_ms]

Bottas getting grip penalty.. omg FIA.. Trying to be extra "fair"

[langedweil]

Bottas getting grip penalty.. omg FIA.. Trying to be extra "fair"

Even when he finally gets a 'grip', he gets a penalty .. man, that guy must have got the mental strenght of gorilla to walk his everyday life !

[langedweil]

I think penalties should have been applied. Probably some removal of constructors points.

Wow, just points or let's say a 100mln as well?

[LM10]

[Wouter]

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What's the use of this chart? Lewis drove a faster lap that was disallowed/removed.
Lewis can therefore go faster than what is stated here.

[ringo]

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... iria-1.jpg

Honda has a power advantage here. We see it from the Alpha Tauri as well. Not only that, the cornering speed of the redbull visually looks the highest. Does anyone have data on that?
Though looking at the dips, the Redbull has highest speed at the low speed.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but advantage redbull. Best car to have this season hands down.
We will need some rain to spice up this race.

As for the pitstop rules. It is a nice way for the FIA to say that we know you are doing something funny, so we will neutralize it with our new reaction times. If you are doing pitstops by human reaction it will not be a problem. If you continue to use your automated systems then you will feel disadvantaged.
I think it is a serious breach and possibly worse than the Ferarri super engine sage from 2019.
It's unfair to be competing with automation against human capabilities. The French GP was won by 0.1 seconds as the two cars met after Hamilton left the pitstops.

[darkpino]

I’m really curious where in the rules it states it should be a human act? (And don’t mean that offensive in any way)

Is it something that could be interpreted different?

[dans79]

I’m really curious where in the rules it states it should be a human act? (And don’t mean that offensive in any way)

Is it something that could be interpreted different?

12.8.4

Devices which are used to fit or remove wheel fasteners may only be powered by
compressed air or nitrogen.

Any sensor systems may only act passively.

[tpe]

As always rules are so vague that it's open to interpretation.
F1 is a legal battlefield.

[siskue2005]

As always rules are so vague that it's open to interpretation.
F1 is a legal battlefield.

What part of any sensor may only work passively is confusing or vague to anyone?



The video above Horner is being funny by saying "we don't have robots working on the car"

[darkpino]

As always rules are so vague that it's open to interpretation.
F1 is a legal battlefield.

What part of any sensor may only work passively is confusing or vague to anyone?



The video above Horner is being funny by saying "we don't have robots working on the car"

How is a sensor able to work passively?

The way I read it is that you can use a sensor to check if the wheel for example is tightened as specified. That sensor is passively so ‘manually operated’

That was I can put an extra button on the wheel gun which has to be pressed to check if the wheel is tightened as specified. But no one states that you can only press that button AFTER tightening the wheel. If I keep that button pressed all the time it’s perfectly fine imo the way the rule states it

Edit: @Dans; thanks!

[lh13]

What is an example of a passive sensor?

[Wouter]

As always rules are so vague that it's open to interpretation.
F1 is a legal battlefield.

What part of any sensor may only work passively is confusing or vague to anyone?



The video above Horner is being funny by saying "we don't have robots working on the car"

The video can't be seen because Sky Sports F1 has a Geo block on their content.

[darkpino]

What is an example of a passive sensor?

In my opinion is that exactly the point where it becomes vague, which doesn’t matter cause that’s where F1 teams are looking for the borders of what is legal and what not. Mercedes with DAS is another perfect example imo. On the other end it’s (also in my opinion) pretty harsh to decide against a team (because that’s what’s happening) in the mid of a championship fight which hasn’t been seen for the last (at least) 10 years even though all the teams pretty much can copy the system

Again taking DAS as an example: no team was able during the season to create a system like DAS, and even more when they decide to prohibited it after season 2020 which (again my opinion) already compromised the 2020 season before it even started it. No I’m not in the illusion DAS would have made they difference last year but it shows that FIA is not even close to being capable of creating a fair playground