2025 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 05 - 07

[Macklaren]

Damn some really sore l**ers in here wow. It's incredible what online culture has become

[PlatinumZealot]

This is tame and lame compared to previous final race threads. I'm surprised we're only at 14 pages. Granted, the site traffic is only a shadow of what it used to be.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Damn some really sore l**ers in here wow. It's incredible what online culture has become

It would be exactly the same if the roles were reversed and dare to say even more emphasized. It ended on a good note and no dramas, let’s focus on the next year.

[Mogster]

This is tame and lame compared to previous final race threads. I'm surprised we're only at 14 pages. Granted, the site traffic is only a shadow of what it used to be.

Most Forums are seeing the same unfortunately. People are posting more on Discord, Reddit, Facebook etc.

[FittingMechanics]

Damn some really sore l**ers in here wow. It's incredible what online culture has become

It would be exactly the same if the roles were reversed and dare to say even more emphasized. It ended on a good note and no dramas, let’s focus on the next year.

Agreed, I think we are happy that it was not a controversial ending.

[venkyhere]

I have a feeling that LeClerc is the dark horse this weekend, and will play a pivotal role in the WDC decider.

Nearly came true ; nevertheless, atleast caused a flutter in papaya stomachs

[PlatinumZealot]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

[rijtuig]

This is why we need a RD like Masi back - can't have these boring results.

[Artur Craft]

Kimi is not going to sleep in the offseason... I'm afraid.

why? He was far from being as good as you expected and hoped him to be_ in fact, his performances were mostly quite bad_ but he had a couple of good moments. Bearman, Hadjar and Bortoleto were way better, no doubt but Ant was too green for F1, maybe he improves a lot on the next few seasons.

Unless you meant because Kimi screwed Max over, concerning the tittle?!

So who was last to use the DRS?

Do not worry, I'm sure they gonna bring this cr#p back, very soon

Most Forums are seeing the same unfortunately. People are posting more on Discord, Reddit, Facebook etc.

Yeah, that is noticeable here but way more impressive when you compare to how autosport F1 forums were in 2010-2012, for instance. Now that place seems almost empty

[Just_a_fan]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

I'm no of fan Max, but he did more to earn the title this season than Lando did.

Lando had the best car. Max didn't and took it to the final race.

I expect Lando to behave as if he's the best thing since sliced bread but the reality is that his team mate took points from the guy who was effectively fighting alone. Max is a better racing driver than Lando. Never thought I'd be singing Max's praises as he's a cheating git at the best of times. But he's a better driver than Lando, so, yeah.

[TimW]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

You can argue that Red Bull needs a better performing second driver. Yuki did not take a single point of McLaren this year (on the other hand, he also did not take a single point of Max)

[f1316]

I think this has to go down as one of the weaker world championship seasons we’ve seen. I can seldom remember a driver with such a car advantage making such hard work of it - not just against the person in equal machinery but also a competitor.

Norris made A LOT of mistakes over the course of the season and was helped out by Oscar going completely missing for a crucial stage of the championship - that stretch of races aside, I think Oscar was the stronger driver and he really oughtn’t to be with so little experience.

I’m pleased to see someone new win (and Michael’s record of 5 straight continue) but Max’s season will go down with Alonso’s 2012 as one of the best losing seasons in the history of the sport. I hope for Norris’s sake he gets another crack at putting together a more convincing world championship campaign.

[DiogoBrand]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

I'm no of fan Max, but he did more to earn the title this season than Lando did.

Lando had the best car. Max didn't and took it to the final race.

I expect Lando to behave as if he's the best thing since sliced bread but the reality is that his team mate took points from the guy who was effectively fighting alone. Max is a better racing driver than Lando. Never thought I'd be singing Max's praises as he's a cheating git at the best of times. But he's a better driver than Lando, so, yeah.

I think not many people will argue that there isn't anyone in the same league as Max currently. I really wish Oscar would have taken the title, as he seemed like the better McLaren through most of the year, but his lows since Monza were really low and he shouln't have anyone but himself to blame for the final result, and I gotta give it to Lando for keeping his composure after being 34 points behind Oscar because of an engine failure that happened through no fault of his own.
Also, even though I don't think either McLaren drive is in the same league as Max, it's clear that McLaren would've taken the driver's title ages ago if they just gave one of the drivers all the decisions.
I don't think of Norris as championship material, but ultimately a driver's championship is won by the driver and the car, and even though he didn't reach as high of a level as Piastri in my opinion, his consistency earned him the title when they both had the car to fight for it.

[f1isgood]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

I'm no of fan Max, but he did more to earn the title this season than Lando did.

Lando had the best car. Max didn't and took it to the final race.

I expect Lando to behave as if he's the best thing since sliced bread but the reality is that his team mate took points from the guy who was effectively fighting alone. Max is a better racing driver than Lando. Never thought I'd be singing Max's praises as he's a cheating git at the best of times. But he's a better driver than Lando, so, yeah.

I think not many people will argue that there isn't anyone in the same league as Max currently. I really wish Oscar would have taken the title, as he seemed like the better McLaren through most of the year, but his lows since Monza were really low and he shouln't have anyone but himself to blame for the final result, and I gotta give it to Lando for keeping his composure after being 34 points behind Oscar because of an engine failure that happened through no fault of his own.
Also, even though I don't think either McLaren drive is in the same league as Max, it's clear that McLaren would've taken the driver's title ages ago if they just gave one of the drivers all the decisions.
I don't think of Norris as championship material, but ultimately a driver's championship is won by the driver and the car, and even though he didn't reach as high of a level as Piastri in my opinion, his consistency earned him the title when they both had the car to fight for it.

I think it's mostly the timing. After Monza, Red Bull's upgrades and other cars developing meant Oscar couldn't simply qualify way back, or do a false start and still get onto the podium - something Lando could do early on.

Oscar's slump benefited Lando a lot more than Lando's slump benefited Oscar. Both drivers cannot handle 24 races a year, and cannot be consistent. Lando getting 20 odd podiums is mostly on the car, in my view and little to do with his performance per say. Even if he didn't beat Oscar, he had the car to get at least P2 every race except Vegas this year.

I don't think McLaren orchestrated much for the drivers, except for the swap at Monza, which effectively sealed the title for Lando in hindsight. Both their drivers being inconsistent and underperforming the potential of the car meant they couldn't really pick one. Of course, after Zandvoort, they could have picked Oscar but then they probably were compensating for Lando's DNF to keep things "fair". But I don't think that changes outcomes much in the end.

[Just_a_fan]

Can one argue that Max gave the championship away? Did Lando make less mistakes than Max? It's worth the analysis.

You can argue that Red Bull needs a better performing second driver. Yuki did not take a single point of McLaren this year (on the other hand, he also did not take a single point of Max)

That's Red Bull's MO. They back a single driver and the other guy is left to rot. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

Ironically, a Perez this year would have helped Max win the title where Yuki had no chance. Live by the sword, die by it...