2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 04:18
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
23 Feb 2026, 09:40
I can't help but shake a very specific thought seeing all this.

Newey being the Team Principle may not actually be a good thing.

Let me explain:

Either he is not able to give his full attention to the car development due to the other demands placed on a TP...

OR

He actually needs someone to reign in his ideas a little bit and does not have that now.

The more I see of this car, the more it reminds me of the MP4/18 where Newey designed a car so extreme that it was never able to fulfill its theoretical potential.

I hope I'm wrong.
How Boring. We will see a unrestricted genius in Adrain Newey bearing his powers across an entire team in the coming years and you are afraid!
Afraid??

I would love Aston to do well, I like Alonso and the sport would benefit greatly from having him in the mix at the front!!
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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 11:13
PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 04:18
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
23 Feb 2026, 09:40
I can't help but shake a very specific thought seeing all this.

Newey being the Team Principle may not actually be a good thing.

Let me explain:

Either he is not able to give his full attention to the car development due to the other demands placed on a TP...

OR

He actually needs someone to reign in his ideas a little bit and does not have that now.

The more I see of this car, the more it reminds me of the MP4/18 where Newey designed a car so extreme that it was never able to fulfill its theoretical potential.

I hope I'm wrong.
How Boring. We will see a unrestricted genius in Adrain Newey bearing his powers across an entire team in the coming years and you are afraid!
Afraid??
Yes. I sense nervousness.

"Not a good situation"
"He doesn't have the mental bandwidth to be TP and lead car design,"
"He needs to be reigned in"
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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Beware of T-Rex

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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 13:21
This is actually what I would fear more. Adrian Newey going back to doing exactly what he's good at and leaving Horner to do exactly what he is good at. There are not many certainties in F1, but we do know that Horner and Newey work well together.

Egos are too big. On both sides.
Plus the 'larger than life' image of Newey , in addition to his position within the org as part-owner (instead of an apex employee) doesn't help either.
Probably the reason Honda weren't able to push back on engine peripheral geometry changes when the 'chassis' requested for it.
I think the present situation is a 'transient' phase (violent flux in structure less than 6 months before season start) before it all settles down for good over 2026. Stroll & Newey should be ready to write-off this year (the year that was required anyway, for starting from scratch) and think of 2027 as their maiden-car year. Issue is, even if they do that, what to tell Alonso ?

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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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How many owners and stake holders are there in AMR?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 04:18
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
23 Feb 2026, 09:40
I can't help but shake a very specific thought seeing all this.

Newey being the Team Principle may not actually be a good thing.

Let me explain:

Either he is not able to give his full attention to the car development due to the other demands placed on a TP...

OR

He actually needs someone to reign in his ideas a little bit and does not have that now.

The more I see of this car, the more it reminds me of the MP4/18 where Newey designed a car so extreme that it was never able to fulfill its theoretical potential.

I hope I'm wrong.
How Boring. We will see a unrestricted genius in Adrain Newey bearing his powers across an entire team in the coming years and you are afraid!
I'm not worried. He did say originally "for the first few races anyways, I was planning on going to those." So some other plan is in tge works. Either Cowell will return from Japan or Krack or something else.

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diffuser wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 23:42
Good Article ....

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/honda ... /10800741/
AR3-GP wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 02:33

Honda said that they didn't experience these problems at Red Bull. I just remembered something that has changed for 2026. One of the structural braces in the cylinder head was reportedly eliminated in order to reduce the engine cover size.

https://i.postimg.cc/SKCkJMH6/image.png


They must homologate engine /battery by 1.3. so how will they finish races with these problems if they cant do even few laps?

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sn809 wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 22:04
Is the homologation of ICE only or also of battery. As in can they move things around??
There isn't anything to worry about. They can change anything if they can justify it's for reliability.

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diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:55
sn809 wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 22:04
Is the homologation of ICE only or also of battery. As in can they move things around??
There isn't anything to worry about. They can change anything if they can justify it's for reliability.
When, only before 1.3.? but that is performance problem not reliability

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hsg wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:59
diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:55
sn809 wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 22:04
Is the homologation of ICE only or also of battery. As in can they move things around??
There isn't anything to worry about. They can change anything if they can justify it's for reliability.
When, only before 1.3.? but that is performance problem not reliability

By 1.3 I think you mean March 1st? You can do anything you want before March 1st.

Reading "APPENDIX 4:   HOMOLOGATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF POWER UNITS, FUEL AND ENGINE OIL
FOR 2026‐2030"

Manufacturers can apply to change a PU component for the sole purpose of reliability:

Fixing a part that has proven to fail too often

Changing a supplier or part number because of a supply issue

Adjusting a design to eliminate a known weak spot

Minor changes with no performance benefit

But they must:
- Submit a written application to the FIA technical department
- Provide supporting information and (where relevant) evidence of the failures
- Wait for FIA approval before using the change in competition
- Share the proposal with all other PU manufacturers for comment
- Typically make the request in advance (14 days before intended first use) so the FIA can review it.

These reliability changes are considered “permitted modifications” — distinct from the standard annual or ADUO upgrade slots covered elsewhere in Appendix 4

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hsg wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:59
diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:55
sn809 wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 22:04
Is the homologation of ICE only or also of battery. As in can they move things around??
There isn't anything to worry about. They can change anything if they can justify it's for reliability.
When, only before 1.3.? but that is performance problem not reliability

By 1.3 I think you mean March 1st? You can do anything you want before March 1st.

Reading "APPENDIX 4:   HOMOLOGATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF POWER UNITS, FUEL AND ENGINE OIL
FOR 2026‐2030"

Manufacturers can apply to change a PU component for the sole purpose of reliability:

-Fixing a part that has proven to fail too often
-Changing a supplier or part number because of a supply issue
-Adjusting a design to eliminate a known weak spot
-Minor changes with no performance benefit

But they must:
- Submit a written application to the FIA technical department
- Provide supporting information and (where relevant) evidence of the failures
- Wait for FIA approval before using the change in competition
- Share the proposal with all other PU manufacturers for comment
- Typically make the request in advance (14 days before intended first use) so the FIA can review it.

These reliability changes are considered “permitted modifications” — distinct from the standard annual or ADUO upgrade slots covered elsewhere in Appendix 4
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diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 16:26
hsg wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:59
diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 15:55


There isn't anything to worry about. They can change anything if they can justify it's for reliability.
When, only before 1.3.? but that is performance problem not reliability

By 1.3 I think you mean March 1st? You can do anything you want before March 1st.

Reading "APPENDIX 4:   HOMOLOGATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF POWER UNITS, FUEL AND ENGINE OIL
FOR 2026‐2030"

Manufacturers can apply to change a PU component for the sole purpose of reliability:

Fixing a part that has proven to fail too often

Changing a supplier or part number because of a supply issue

Adjusting a design to eliminate a known weak spot

Minor changes with no performance benefit

But they must:
- Submit a written application to the FIA technical department
- Provide supporting information and (where relevant) evidence of the failures
- Wait for FIA approval before using the change in competition
- Share the proposal with all other PU manufacturers for comment
- Typically make the request in advance (14 days before intended first use) so the FIA can review it.

These reliability changes are considered “permitted modifications” — distinct from the standard annual or ADUO upgrade slots covered elsewhere in Appendix 4
But after March 1st they cant do nothing, so how will they finish races with that engine/battery problem?
I doubt they fix these problems up to March 1st

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hsg wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 16:31

But after March 1st they cant do nothing, so how will they finish races with that engine/battery problem?
I doubt they fix these problems up to March 1st
They can modify it after March 1st if its not reliable.

3.6 Modifications may be made to Power Unit components for the sole purposes of reliability,
safety, cost saving, subject to the approval process outlined in Article 3.10.a of this Appendix.
3.10 The following additional constraints apply to the permitted modifications discussed in this
Article 3:
a. To carry out modifications under the provisions of Articles 3.5, 3.6 and 3.7 of this
Appendix, PU Manufacturers must apply in writing to the FIA Technical Department
and must provide all necessary supporting information including, where appropriate,
clear evidence of failures. The FIA will circulate the correspondence to all Power Unit
Manufacturers for comment. If the FIA is satisfied, in its absolute discretion, that
these changes are acceptable, they will confirm to the Power Unit Manufacturer
concerned that they may be carried out.
Wherever practical, such requests must be submitted at least 14 days before the
requested date of homologation.
The procedure and associated document templates that must be used by the Power
Unit Manufacturers for their requests are available in the Appendix of the
Regulations.

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F1 unchained on you tube is saying AMR26 will have a massive(all new) aero up grade for Australia.

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diffuser wrote:
28 Feb 2026, 17:19
F1 unchained on you tube is saying AMR26 will have a massive(all new) aero up grade for Australia.
Yea I believe multiple news sites have implied the same