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[Sergej]

McLaren in sector1 is untouchable. Sector1 in jeddah used to be a Redbull fortress from 2022. That Japan win from a few weeks ago was indeed a miracle, thanks to a lucky combination of harder compounds chosen by Pirelli and cold weather chosen by nature. I don't think the flexi wing correction in Barcelona or the 'imola upgrades on redbull' is going to do anything to change the status quo. The RB21 doesn't hold a single ace over the MCL39, that car holds all aces in all types of corners, all temperatures, all ride heights.

The 'gulf' is bigger than anyone expected. The European leg of races is going to be a bloodbath.

Maybe the RB21 doesn’t hold the aces right now, but its biggest ace is potential. The MCL39 might be close to perfection, but that also means it's running out of headroom for improvement—finding another 3–4 tenths gets exponentially harder when you're already near the ceiling. Red Bull, on the other hand, still has clear areas to work on—instability, tyre management, setup sensitivity. If they solve those, the performance jump could be massive.

That's the typical wishful thinking of who is behind.

[AR3-GP]

That's the typical wishful thinking of who is behind.

The more I see of this Mclaren...I just don't know if Red Bull could ever close such a margin

I've never seen a team able to massively reduce their tire degradation within a season. It usually required architectural changes which can only be achieved over a winter. The Mclaren of last year had reasonable tire degradation before Miami. They were already showing signs in China. Miami just made them much faster.

[CjC]

McLaren in sector1 is untouchable. Sector1 in jeddah used to be a Redbull fortress from 2022. That Japan win from a few weeks ago was indeed a miracle, thanks to a lucky combination of harder compounds chosen by Pirelli and cold weather chosen by nature. I don't think the flexi wing correction in Barcelona or the 'imola upgrades on redbull' is going to do anything to change the status quo. The RB21 doesn't hold a single ace over the MCL39, that car holds all aces in all types of corners, all temperatures, all ride heights.

The 'gulf' is bigger than anyone expected. The European leg of races is going to be a bloodbath.

Maybe the RB21 doesn’t hold the aces right now, but its biggest ace is potential. The MCL39 might be close to perfection, but that also means it's running out of headroom for improvement—finding another 3–4 tenths gets exponentially harder when you're already near the ceiling. Red Bull, on the other hand, still has clear areas to work on—instability, tyre management, setup sensitivity. If they solve those, the performance jump could be massive.

I read a article with Rob Marshall and Neil Houldey pre-season and McLaren reckon there isn’t a ceiling

[ringo]

Redbull is doing well. They fixed something in the suspension because the car is scraping the ground and sparking everywhere consistently. It doesn't even look like it is bouncing either. Their challenge will be if the cars can pass inspections of the plank.

[Sergej]

yeah seems they lowered the car, lot of sparks

[organic]

Redbull is doing well. They fixed something in the suspension because the car is scraping the ground and sparking everywhere consistently. It doesn't even look like it is bouncing either. Their challenge will be if the cars can pass inspections of the plank.

The only problems we have with suspension are bumps and kerbs. At Jeddah you can avoid the kerbs mostly and not lose too much time, and there are no bumps to speak of

[Sergej]

2 attempts for Max right ?

[Sergej]

lol 1 thousandth

[FNTC]

lol 1 thousandth

With extra fuel

[Sergej]

my god Max

[AR3-GP]

I'm done with this guy

[FNTC]

Insane... 1 hundreth ahead of Piastri and 9 tenths ahead of Tsunoda.

[CjC]

Wow that was tight. Awesome job by Max

[napoleon1981]

Surely John Deere is an option in 2026 too. What a performance

[organic]

This is rb21 pre upgrades guys

Maybe the weight redistribution this weekend was good

Or we thank max