2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Missing Bahrain and Saudi is a little bit of a saving grace. Gives them some time to work on the car but also takes away two races which were likely to be dominated by Mercedes anyway.
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According to the current regulations if an engine manufacturer is within 2-4% from the top engine the FIA will allow 2 complete PU upgrades (you can completely change the ICE and the electric part of the engine as well). One upgrade can be brought in the current season, the other one in the next season. This is ON TOP of the standard upgrade allowed for everyone next season (where you can change only specific parts of the ICE).

If an engine manufacturer is over 4% from the top engine than the FIA will allow 4 upgrades.
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Xyz22 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:42
According to the current regulations if an engine manufacturer is within 2-4% from the top engine the FIA will allow 2 complete PU upgrades (you can completely change the ICE and the electric part of the engine as well). One upgrade can be brought in the current season, the other one in the next season. This is ON TOP of the standard upgraded allowed for everyone next season (where you can change only specific parts of the ICE).

If an engine manufacturer is over 4% from the top engine than the FIA will allow 4 upgrades.
2 in the current season and 2 in the next?

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Sbrillo88 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:48
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:42
According to the current regulations if an engine manufacturer is within 2-4% from the top engine the FIA will allow 2 complete PU upgrades (you can completely change the ICE and the electric part of the engine as well). One upgrade can be brought in the current season, the other one in the next season. This is ON TOP of the standard upgraded allowed for everyone next season (where you can change only specific parts of the ICE).

If an engine manufacturer is over 4% from the top engine than the FIA will allow 4 upgrades.
2 in the current season and 2 in the next?
If you are talking about the 4 upgrades (over 4% from the top engine) I don't know specifically when you can bring them. Probably 2 and 2 as you said.

One important addition: the FIA can change the % required to enter the ADUO.

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I really hope something is done with the PU’s because at this rate there’s no point to any of this, at least not when it comes to fighting for wins, the fact that teams are not allowed PU upgrades in the first place without “permission” is a ludicrous rule. Typical FIA, incompetent morons!

On another note were these rules suck, is that drivers are making less & less of a difference, they are practically passengers & you can see it across all teams were there is little to no driver separation. At this rate they might as well bring autopilot in for 2027!
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I think the bigger question is would Ferrari even have a substantial engine upgrade available until later in the year - which by that point might be too late if we're talking about winning more than one or two races this year? I know according to Motorsport Italia they're working on it but bringing it in September wouldn't do much overall. The one month break will be useful in this way since it limits the damage but I can't imagine they bring anything reliable soon. And we can see with Red Bull and McLaren how a lack of reliability can be even worse than 'just' being mediocre.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:54
I think the bigger question is would Ferrari even have a substantial engine upgrade available until later in the year - which by that point might be too late if we're talking about winning more than one or two races this year? I know according to Motorsport Italia they're working on it but bringing it in September wouldn't do much overall. The one month break will be useful in this way since it limits the damage but I can't imagine they bring anything reliable soon. And we can see with Red Bull and McLaren how a lack of reliability can be even worse than 'just' being mediocre.
Unfortunately for the WCC is probably too late, but it would be crucial for 2027.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:54
I think the bigger question is would Ferrari even have a substantial engine upgrade available until later in the year - which by that point might be too late if we're talking about winning more than one or two races this year? I know according to Motorsport Italia they're working on it but bringing it in September wouldn't do much overall. The one month break will be useful in this way since it limits the damage but I can't imagine they bring anything reliable soon. And we can see with Red Bull and McLaren how a lack of reliability can be even worse than 'just' being mediocre.
this season is done. Unless some teams doesn't have a new powerful PU ready for June it will be too late.

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Sbrillo88 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:56
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:54
I think the bigger question is would Ferrari even have a substantial engine upgrade available until later in the year - which by that point might be too late if we're talking about winning more than one or two races this year? I know according to Motorsport Italia they're working on it but bringing it in September wouldn't do much overall. The one month break will be useful in this way since it limits the damage but I can't imagine they bring anything reliable soon. And we can see with Red Bull and McLaren how a lack of reliability can be even worse than 'just' being mediocre.
this season is done. Unless some teams doesn't have a new powerful PU ready for June it will be too late.
This is the reason Formula 1 sucks. There is no chance to upgrade the engine and the one having the best engine may be technically illegal as it told the FIA their concept and worked with FiA for the development of its regulations.

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Article from Autoracer from a few days ago said Ferrari plan to introduce their new engine in July if they qualify for ADUO, but today Fred said they can't just focus on the engine. Also big upgrade package for Miami


https://autoracer.it/vasseur-ferrari-in ... -mercedes/
while Vasseur does not expect major changes to come from the technical directive. "We don't expect much from the directive, but we do expect a step with the ADUO." The mistake to avoid, however, is focusing solely on the engine. "We also need to improve the car. There is no magic wand. We need to work on tyres, aerodynamics, chassis, suspension as well. Everything. We are ahead of McLaren and Red Bull, but they will also push on developments."

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Emag wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:41
Missing Bahrain and Saudi is a little bit of a saving grace. Gives them some time to work on the car but also takes away two races which were likely to be dominated by Mercedes anyway.
Missing Bahrain is a bit sad since the track is so good and should suit Ferrari so well. Missing Saudi is good though, given that it will be the worst track on the calendar for harvesting.

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Luscion wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:21
Article from Autoracer from a few days ago said Ferrari plan to introduce their new engine in July if they qualify for ADUO, but today Fred said they can't just focus on the engine. Also big upgrade package for Miami


https://autoracer.it/vasseur-ferrari-in ... -mercedes/
while Vasseur does not expect major changes to come from the technical directive. "We don't expect much from the directive, but we do expect a step with the ADUO." The mistake to avoid, however, is focusing solely on the engine. "We also need to improve the car. There is no magic wand. We need to work on tyres, aerodynamics, chassis, suspension as well. Everything. We are ahead of McLaren and Red Bull, but they will also push on developments."
but we don't know if they will be in the 3% of performance. Mercedes could be play in Japan, turning down a bit their PU, just to denied ADUO to the competitors.
Will they bring the "steel" engine or they will develop this one that they're currently use?
bananapeel23 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:33

Missing Bahrain is a bit sad since the track is so good and should suit Ferrari so well. Missing Saudi is good though, given that it will be the worst track on the calendar for harvesting.
missing every race now is a blessing.

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On a somewhat related note, I hope Lewis keeps this up for the rest of the season. He looked completely defeated last year, it was almost sad to look at. This is more like the Lewis of old.
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Sbrillo88 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:33
Luscion wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:21
Article from Autoracer from a few days ago said Ferrari plan to introduce their new engine in July if they qualify for ADUO, but today Fred said they can't just focus on the engine. Also big upgrade package for Miami


https://autoracer.it/vasseur-ferrari-in ... -mercedes/
while Vasseur does not expect major changes to come from the technical directive. "We don't expect much from the directive, but we do expect a step with the ADUO." The mistake to avoid, however, is focusing solely on the engine. "We also need to improve the car. There is no magic wand. We need to work on tyres, aerodynamics, chassis, suspension as well. Everything. We are ahead of McLaren and Red Bull, but they will also push on developments."
but we don't know if they will be in the 3% of performance. Mercedes could be play in Japan, turning down a bit their PU, just to denied ADUO to the competitors.
Mercedes has already shown the massive power advantage.

Also I hope the FIA won’t be dumb enough to be mislead by games of turning the PU down. The measurement of power should be possible regardless of what teams do to hide it.
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The FIA will fold in favor of Mercedes. Everything else is purely hopium. Why bother with this? This year will be 2014 lite.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.