2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:24
Without slipstream there is no pole. Yuki gave max a tow

The Q3 tactics were perfect today

Ah so that’s changes the outlook.
Also another piece of evidence of how ‘one man teams’ have an advantage over 2 drivers going for the world title

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CjC wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:31
organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:24
Without slipstream there is no pole. Yuki gave max a tow

The Q3 tactics were perfect today

Ah so that’s changes the outlook.
Also another piece of evidence of how ‘one man teams’ have an advantage over 2 drivers going for the world title
If we can do this sort of tow whenever the margins are tight, and dirty air continues to be bad then it can add up to a big difference by the end of the year.

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organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:32
CjC wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:31
organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:24
Without slipstream there is no pole. Yuki gave max a tow

The Q3 tactics were perfect today

Ah so that’s changes the outlook.
Also another piece of evidence of how ‘one man teams’ have an advantage over 2 drivers going for the world title
If we can do this sort of tow whenever the margins are tight, and dirty air continues to be bad then it can add up to a big difference by the end of the year.
Exactly. It’s going to add an extra layer to the battle
Just a fan's point of view

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Red Bull can do that. They already gave up about the WCC and have only to back Max for the WDC, even if there is a very slight chance.

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Going so much faster in sector 1 also took a bit out of Max's tires so his next two sectors were slightly slower. In terms of pure pace, without a tow MCL would have come out on top and Max would probably have slotted in second.

I don't think we'll have good deg like Suzuka considering the softer tires, so it will be difficult to keep PIA behind maybe even RUS. Let's see, I hope dirty air works its magic tomorrow.

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Slower on the straights in qualy than in FP3. They maybe added some downforce for the race which might explain the step taken in S1.
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euv2 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:45
Going so much faster in sector 1 also took a bit out of Max's tires so his next two sectors were slightly slower. In terms of pure pace, without a tow MCL would have come out on top and Max would probably have slotted in second.

I don't think we'll have good deg like Suzuka considering the softer tires, so it will be difficult to keep PIA behind maybe even RUS. Let's see, I hope dirty air works its magic tomorrow.
I think that realistically the only chance is that if McLaren suffer A LOT in dirty air, but if Max's tyres start to go it'll be an easy pass for Oscar.

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:40
Red Bull can do that. They already gave up about the WCC and have only to back Max for the WDC, even if there is a very slight chance.
It's not that realistic. I've heard that Yuki messed up his lap which is why he may have been in a position to do it.

On most tracks, the tow becomes a distraction because it hinders the ideal preparation lap, either the straights are too short, or the driver miscalculates the braking point due to the extra speed and ends up losing time compared to the reference.
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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:47
Slower on the straights in qualy than in FP3. They maybe added some downforce for the race which might explain the step taken in S1.
aaah....that's what I wished for, a few pages ago, despite the 'alarming gap' from the FP3 timing board - "add DF"

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:49
euv2 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:45
Going so much faster in sector 1 also took a bit out of Max's tires so his next two sectors were slightly slower. In terms of pure pace, without a tow MCL would have come out on top and Max would probably have slotted in second.

I don't think we'll have good deg like Suzuka considering the softer tires, so it will be difficult to keep PIA behind maybe even RUS. Let's see, I hope dirty air works its magic tomorrow.
I think that realistically the only chance is that if McLaren suffer A LOT in dirty air, but if Max's tyres start to go it'll be an easy pass for Oscar.
As well as Lando, dirty air is a weakness for Mclaren
Just a fan's point of view

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:49
euv2 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:45
Going so much faster in sector 1 also took a bit out of Max's tires so his next two sectors were slightly slower. In terms of pure pace, without a tow MCL would have come out on top and Max would probably have slotted in second.

I don't think we'll have good deg like Suzuka considering the softer tires, so it will be difficult to keep PIA behind maybe even RUS. Let's see, I hope dirty air works its magic tomorrow.
I think that realistically the only chance is that if McLaren suffer A LOT in dirty air, but if Max's tyres start to go it'll be an easy pass for Oscar.
A fight for P2 with Russell and Lando sounds fine to me

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:50
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:40
Red Bull can do that. They already gave up about the WCC and have only to back Max for the WDC, even if there is a very slight chance.
It's not that realistic. I've heard that Yuki messed up his lap which is why he may have been in a position to do it.

On most tracks, the tow becomes a distraction because it hinders the ideal preparation lap, either the straights are too short, or the driver miscalculates the braking point due to the extra speed and ends up losing time compared to the reference.
of course in most track it's pointless, or in situations like last week in Bahrain where you are not fighting at the top; but in few situations it could prove useful, imagine being in contention for pole in Baku, a good tow may give you pole.

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organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:17
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19 Apr 2025, 20:16
Red Bull have one ace for sure. That is Max Verstappen. 😁
The car is good here too... Look how far Merc/Ferrari are
Yuki disagrees

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:49
euv2 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:45
Going so much faster in sector 1 also took a bit out of Max's tires so his next two sectors were slightly slower. In terms of pure pace, without a tow MCL would have come out on top and Max would probably have slotted in second.

I don't think we'll have good deg like Suzuka considering the softer tires, so it will be difficult to keep PIA behind maybe even RUS. Let's see, I hope dirty air works its magic tomorrow.
I think that realistically the only chance is that if McLaren suffer A LOT in dirty air, but if Max's tyres start to go it'll be an easy pass for Oscar.
Yeah, I think Oscar can chill out for a bit, stay 1.5-2 secs behind Max out of DRS range (if George is not on his tail) and wait for Max's tires to fall off and then pass easily, kind of like Zandvoort last year with Lando.

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Max said he lost time in T13 and T16 due to traffic, tried to make up for it, then tires got too hot for T22
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