2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Max actually said after quali that the balance was not where he wanted it to be. He said better than fp3 but not what he wants. Pretty interesting

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organic wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 02:39
Max actually said after quali that the balance was not where he wanted it to be. He said better than fp3 but not what he wants. Pretty interesting
When was the last time Max was happy with the balance btw? Maybe few races in 2023?
I feel that "I can't turn the car" from Max will slowly become the same as "The tyres are gone" from Lewis. :D

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organic wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 02:39
Max actually said after quali that the balance was not where he wanted it to be. He said better than fp3 but not what he wants. Pretty interesting
The car hasn't been fully updated. They never denied the balance issues. Tsunoda was nowhere.
It doesn't turn.

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Bill wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:19
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19 Apr 2025, 20:15
Yuki for the third time in row has gone slower in Q3 than in Q2. He was also consistently slower on New Tires compared to Used tires. Would have been fifth with the Q2 time. The 2nd seat continues to be a mystery.
i think you need two runs to get the most .they should have given him time like Max.they left it too late for someone inexperienced .maybe they were afraid he will crush and ruin max run
Replays shows he was used to give a Tow For Max so I guess that's the plan.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Paa wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 03:22
organic wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 02:39
Max actually said after quali that the balance was not where he wanted it to be. He said better than fp3 but not what he wants. Pretty interesting
When was the last time Max was happy with the balance btw? Maybe few races in 2023?
I feel that "I can't turn the car" from Max will slowly become the same as "The tyres are gone" from Lewis. :D
I think you can see it in the lap. He can't carry the speed in some of the sharp turn in corners. The super high speed at the start of S3 he almost understeers off the track.

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I don't get the Honda for 2026 thing.
The RBPT unit must be massively behind for them to allegedly consider that.

You're giving Honda (which will be a rival manufacturer) the benefit of two extra cars on track while giving up your own benefit.

The short term gain would cost Red Bull long term. Normally you wouldn't do that but perhaps internal and external pressure on the team is too high currently.

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20 Apr 2025, 09:04
I don't get the Honda for 2026 thing.
The RBPT unit must be massively behind for them to allegedly consider that.

You're giving Honda (which will be a rival manufacturer) the benefit of two extra cars on track while giving up your own benefit.

The short term gain would cost Red Bull long term. Normally you wouldn't do that but perhaps internal and external pressure on the team is too high currently.
Max has release clauses related to engine performance. This may be part of it

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ME4ME wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 09:04

You're giving Honda (which will be a rival manufacturer) the benefit of two extra cars on track while giving up your own benefit.
but to Red Bull's benefit, they now have an engine to benchmark against. It is a mutually beneficial compromise.
It doesn't turn.

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Verstappen is actually multiple tiers better than every other driver on the grid it's not even close. I can't recall the last time the gap was this big. Better than any driver I have watched that's for sure.

Also, that ghost lap is very much like last year's pole, Max really goes as close to the walls as possible, it's frankly ridiculous. No one got them balls on the grid to take that extra risk at least not around Jeddah.
Call a spade, a spade.

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organic wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:18
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19 Apr 2025, 20:17
The temps brought everyone closer and it was close enough for Max to work his magic. Lando looked like the faster McLaren here, but he binned it on the first lap of Q3 :lol:
What would max in a McLaren do :mrgreen:
2023 but on steroids.
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On another note, I think his 2024 pole lap was better and maybe the best lap around Jeddah --
Call a spade, a spade.

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yeah that turn 4 was just pure perfection

something like Suzuka 2023 pole, another perfect lap over the 2025 one

but these poles have a different taste of course, being on the non-fastest car

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Sergej wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 12:17
yeah that turn 4 was just pure perfection

something like Suzuka 2023 pole, another perfect lap over the 2025 one

but these poles have a different taste of course, being on the non-fastest car
On that note, this car doesn't look better than the RB20 in any corner comparing the two laps.

https://imgur.com/a/pole-comparison-2vWaNRd
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f1isgood wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 12:19
Sergej wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 12:17
yeah that turn 4 was just pure perfection

something like Suzuka 2023 pole, another perfect lap over the 2025 one

but these poles have a different taste of course, being on the non-fastest car
On that note, this car doesn't look better than the RB20 in any corner comparing the two laps.

https://imgur.com/a/pole-comparison-2vWaNRd
well ironically seems T4-5 are far better this year ? anyway difficult to compare, tyres are a step softer this year and we are 1.5 months later than last year GP so temperatures a little different as well (37°C yesterday vs 32°C last year).