2013 United States Grand Prix

[cubejam]

Does anyone have a clue what on Earth these things are? Found these pictures of them on Nextgenauto.com in their US GP album but can't work out what they might be. They look to be pictured on one of the red areas next to the track.

[FW17]

@Mclaren

[tomazy]

I would guess that this is a camera that is usualy built in a cerb exiting a corner.

[ds.raikkonen]

I heard RoGro punched Kimi in the back so he wouldn't be in the last few races. Perez is taking south american performance enhancing drugs. Williams is fueling with liquified tungsten on the last pit stop to make weight.

You will not believe what the Spanish fans have to say regarding Alonso and Ferrari's misfortunes
Bottas though, what a performance, at least in qualy. Similar to the one in Canada, lets hope he gets a good run at the start and finishes well. Same for Perez, drove quite aggressively, out qualified JB. Maldonado accusing Williams of tampering with the car was simply unbecoming of a Grand Prix driver, disappointing.

[Unc1e_M0nty]

Sports about competition, this is a walkover, I'm not having a dig a Vettle or RB - they've not put a foot wrong, but this is not my idea of great sport.

Sports is about performance, not about competition. The show is about competition.

That makes no sense at all, you can't win if there's no one to compete against.

Performance is a means to an end.

[ds.raikkonen]

That makes no sense at all, you can't win if there's no one to compete against.

Blue Ocean strategy by Red Bull Racing perhaps? Making the competition redundant?

[SectorOne]

It's like when Senna was in the McLaren, they were over a second a lap faster than everyone else, same here. Vettel's car is at least a second a lap faster than his closest competitor.

But back then it was fine because in the car next to Senna sat one of the greatest masterminds the sport has ever seen.

I would have loved these last four years if either Alonso/Kimi or Hamilton shared the other car.
It would have been a spectacular 4 years. Who cares if they are a second ahead, you can be certain there´s a dogfight up ahead anyways.

With only one consistently strong teammate it´s a bit ..meh in terms of entertainment.

[sennafan24]

Vettel is not like Senna.
Vettel is like Schumi.
He Schumi drover around with traction control on his car.
Vettel drives arround in a device that is like traction control.

Either way he has fitted on his car a device that nobody else on the field has not even webber.... Or who knows maybe he has it too now.... Maybe that why we see these 1&2 by redbull now a days...
But anyways go ahead and hate me for pointing out that Sebbs car has a device that nobody else does and it makes his car go faster.

Senna drove his ass around track finding more and more time pushing to the limit. Until he was 2 sometimes seconds faster then everyone else...

I admire the Senna love, but RB did not use traction control.

There is a good article up on James Allen's site about RB using engine mapping better than anyone else. Plus at Singapore, Seb was in clean air and is on merit really fast at that track. Seb has always been pretty strong at Singapore if you look at previous years results.

The theory goes that the engine mapping advantage worked the most round the Singapore track.

Here is the quote from Allen's site

"Rather than traction control, some kind of mapping to blow into the exhaust within the rules is more likely and this all fits with the corner exit work that Red Bull has been carrying out"

You can read the full article here, it makes a lot of sense of things.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/09/a ... e-to-stay/

RB have had a the best car in the second half of the year most weekends, but it would not be in their interests to cheat so late on as Singapore when the title was already in hand, the risk would not be worth the reward so to speak if they got caught. So its doubtful they are using any traction control on either car this evening either.

Seb has just been really consistent as well this year, on driving merit he only made a slight mistake in Canada when he almost put it into the wall, and maybe struggled a bit at Hungary with overtaking (partially as RB struggled with straight line speed that weekend)

He has always finished ahead of his teammate and out qualified him 16-2, you cannot ask more than that given the circumstances, or whatever you think of Webber's ability. Amazingly both have had similar mechanical errors with DRS failures, but Seb put himself into positions in clean air where it did not harm his race as much as Webber's.

Best overall car or not, its unfair to Seb a cheat, or his team

[flynfrog]

Does anyone have a clue what on Earth these things are? Found these pictures of them on Nextgenauto.com in their US GP album but can't work out what they might be. They look to be pictured on one of the red areas next to the track.

http://i.imgur.com/Hwzs0Rb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YNKxfRV.jpg

look like below grade cameras

[munudeges]

Anyone who thinks that Red Bull are using traction control, yet again, only need to look at the aerodynamic gains Sauber have made by going in the same direction.

If it was merely as simple as finding a loophole for traction control then other teams would have been doing that by now as teams did as 1994 rolled on and it was clear what Benetton were getting away with.

[Steven]

As always, feel free to join the live racing hub to chat during the session
http://www.f1technical.net/live

[Joie de vivre]

what a disaster, it took them 10 minutes to remove the car

[Jonnycraig]

Ricciardo Railway yet again.

[sunny1304]

ferrari is running like a vespa!! safe ride and dont overtake anyone....

[Joie de vivre]

will we see penalty for vettel for unsafe release? NOOO