2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Gillian wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 14:41
mzso wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 11:40
F1NAC wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 08:17
Jeus Christ Hill
He may be right. More suited to lead a constantly bumbling team. Meanwhile Leclerc should go to RB or Mercedes.
Leclerc vs Verstappen at RB would be fantastic but I don't see any reason for Ferrari to let Leclerc go. Doesn't make sense for Leclerc either. He has more chance of beating Sainz than Verstappen. And he already has the best car right now, at worst second best. He needs to cut out the little mistakes which I'm sure he will with time. The PU needs to be reliable which I also have no doubt about will be achieved. That leaves the strategy to get on par with RB which is achievable as well especially considering some silly mistakes on strategy where made due to circumstances caused by Leclerc himself.
I was talking from Leclerc's angle. Ferrari makes a fool of itself, constantly. And it's been ongoing for years, decades, maybe. Even the call that wasted Alonso's championship behind Petrov was the same sort of Ferrari blunder we see in the present.
So he would be better off at Mercedes or RB. You don't need the fastest car if you're opposition is Ferrari. And I don't think he would have trouble taking the fight to any teammate.

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ringo wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 18:00
The team's lineup us perfect IMO.
The first time in a while fighting at the front, and with 2 capable drivers.
They drivers are young and will gain more experience. Sainz is a better leader indeed, he just doesn't have the raw talent of Leclerc. Leclerc is melodramatic and i think he needs to change that if he wants to lead. Nothing wrong with being honest with yourself, but as a leader being hard on oneself and self deprecating can impact team spirit.
I don't get why you guys say he's a better leader. He seems to be more confident in ignoring Ferrari's insane commands, but that's about the only edge he has, and that's not likely to last.

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Spoutnik wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 18:34
Ferrari, as a team, is not good enough to recover so many points. They still need to work and improve.

Also, Alonso had a mediocre car, especially in qualifying, which led to some very unfortunate crash related DNFs.

While Charles proved this season that in terms of speed, both in quali/race trim, and racecraft is in the same league as Max he still needs to make a step in decision-making which is even more difficult when you don't have such a solid team like Max has.

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dialtone wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 00:15
A Ferrari driver makes an error and they are a bunch of morons. Didn't even really make strategic mistakes in France, but still a bunch of morons. Built the best engine, starting from the worst, in 2 years and it's a bit unreliable, bunch of morons too. Ferrari driver has the same difficulty as Perez in getting reverse gear working, bunch of morons.
Yes they did. Sainz could have likely held on to third place while the other two were fighting, at worst, fifth place. With the tire change they took away even the chance of it...
It's not the best until it lasts a decent amount of races. The failures cost Leclerc 80-90 points to Verstappen, pretty much the championship.
He didn't have the same difficulty. Perez's wing broke off and the car got hooked by the stub of it. Leclerc's car just wouldn't reverse because of some software stupidity. Otherwise he could have grabbed 4-5th place, maybe even better.

Ferrari's reputation is well earned to be honest. With all the years of stupid strategy calls, and laughable race engineer communication. Both of which are still ongoing...
To be honest I got totally disillusioned by Ferrari at the last race. I don't think they'll ever win another championship, until they have some sort of revolution, meaning firing an replacing the strategy department and race engineers with useful people. (The PU unreliability they'll probably going to fix, eventually.)

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The team can get ten wins in a row but it's not needed if they can get one-twos.

Max's lead can be cut in six races or less if Ferrari put their minds to it. If the put Magnussen "to it" it can be done in three races!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 03:26
The team can get ten wins in a row but it's not needed if they can get one-twos.

Max's lead can be cut in six races or less if Ferrari put their minds to it. If the put Magnussen "to it" it can be done in three races!
Doing "Bottas" is more apt statement. With the kind of relationship Charles, Saiz and Max shares, that wet dream isn't happening. Well, even if Ferrari doesn't manage to win this year, it wouldn't be a disaster. They have shown tremendous development rate with this car, which wasn't the case in the past. Hopefully, both drivers can deliver the results without any mistakes as the car has clearly leapfrogged Red Bull at this point, unless Red Bull comes up another upgrade. Ferrari's worst enemy is their reliability and strategy and that is really a hopeless situation that might still allow Red Bull to go scotfree.

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"Ferrari says the time has not yet come to focus on a single driver but the aim always remains to maximise the team's points tally. A decision could be made later in the season on which driver to focus on"

I don't want to try to divine what they're trying to say anymore. Might as well choose who'll they'll focus on after Max has tied up the championship.

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Solid qualifying.

Great lap by George at the end. Glad to see Sainz finally looking at home in that car. Probably a combination of him adapting and the rear end calming down through development.

Red Bull down in 10th/11th. Perfect position to capitalize, fingers crossed.
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I think the team underestimated the impact the greener track would have, slightly underperformed imo but Red Bull's circumstances mean this is the time to strike. Clear George early and then go for a dominant finish.

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Embarrassing performance today.

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Really embarrassing LMAO. From telemetry we knew Merc got Low speed advantage. SO yeah its all quite good 2-3. Could be 4-5 easily today.
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aleks_ader wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 17:42
Really embarrassing LMAO. From telemetry we knew Merc got Low speed advantage. SO yeah its all quite good 2-3. Could be 4-5 easily today.
Only positive is that when we start from pole things don't go very well usually so maybe it will be a good race tomorrow even though overtaking isn't easy in this track.

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Beginning to look more like Ferrari will be fighting Mercedes by season end.
This is going to be one that got away. I had the inkling very early this year it was going to be a self inflicted too, but still had hopes. Now it looks like Merc are catching up and second and third places are going to be critical.
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Big Tea wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:02
Beginning to look more like Ferrari will be fighting Mercedes by season end.
This is going to be one that got away. I had the inkling very early this year it was going to be a self inflicted too, but still had hopes. Now it looks like Merc are catching up and second and third places are going to be critical.
What are you talking about the pole of Russell is the carbon copy of Alonso' P2 in Montreal. He will be off the pace in race for sure. The only threat for Ferrari on some track could be Hamilton cause he has some sort of extra energy in race pace.

Tomorrow it's easy for Ferrari they are way faster than Russell, they just have to be careful through turn 1. Russell will fight with the McL and Alpine.