2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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FERRARI PUSHES ENERGY RECOVERY TO THE LIMIT: HOW ITS STRATEGY WILL CHANGE AT SUZUKA

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-f ... 47ce7a8d2d
Ferrari believes it can achieve better energy distribution over the lap, but the idea is not so much to chase the W17 on its own terms as to push its own concepts to the extreme, exploiting the potential of its smaller turbo.

The Scuderia aims to maximise energy harvesting in slower sections and during transitions, possibly using a lower gear in certain situations to keep engine revs high: Enrico Gualtieri’s engine department is trying to optimise the qualities of the 067/6 power unit, aware that the fine setup to extract all available power has not yet been fully found.
Also says they have 6-7 kgs to lose, which sounds like a lot for them to be this competitive, but good news if true

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AnotherAlex wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 01:31
Waz wrote:
24 Mar 2026, 23:09
If Toto spotted the FE advantage, then fair play.
Of course every team principal tries to shape the regulations to suit their team, but the FIA do appear to have allowed themselves to be manoeuvred into making a number of poor decisions (blocking front axle regen and an excessive reliance on electrical power, not to mention the compression ratio farce) that only seem to benefit Mercedes.
Yes, the problem is not in MERC, but in FIA if they allowed to be "maneuvered" and it is well known fact that Toto is a big "influencer". However every TP wants to influence the rules in favor of his team (normal), but on the end FIA make decisions...

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does Ferrari first EV road car have any helpful impact in current f1 reg?

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FDD wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 11:37
AnotherAlex wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 01:31
Waz wrote:
24 Mar 2026, 23:09
If Toto spotted the FE advantage, then fair play.
Of course every team principal tries to shape the regulations to suit their team, but the FIA do appear to have allowed themselves to be manoeuvred into making a number of poor decisions (blocking front axle regen and an excessive reliance on electrical power, not to mention the compression ratio farce) that only seem to benefit Mercedes.
Yes, the problem is not in MERC, but in FIA if they allowed to be "maneuvered" and it is well known fact that Toto is a big "influencer". However every TP wants to influence the rules in favor of his team (normal), but on the end FIA make decisions...
LoL
FIA is to the whole of F1, what UN is to the world. Puppets in the hands of a few. FIA has been dancing to the tunes of one/two 'big-teams' / 'big-money' in FoM, since the days of Balestre (or since even earlier) and the only time I thought there were even 'reasonably strict' was when Ross Brawn defined the chassis rules for the just concluded ground effect era, not because they suddenly became saints, but because the rules were iron-tight from the onset. Even then, we had TD039, disguised as a 'safety call', lobbied by you-know-who. I can live with all that, have been a fan of F1, despite being aware of the 'paper-tiger' that FIA actually is, etc etc.
Just that when you say 'FIA make decisions' , it cracks me up.

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venkyhere wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 13:56
FDD wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 11:37
AnotherAlex wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 01:31


Of course every team principal tries to shape the regulations to suit their team, but the FIA do appear to have allowed themselves to be manoeuvred into making a number of poor decisions (blocking front axle regen and an excessive reliance on electrical power, not to mention the compression ratio farce) that only seem to benefit Mercedes.
Yes, the problem is not in MERC, but in FIA if they allowed to be "maneuvered" and it is well known fact that Toto is a big "influencer". However every TP wants to influence the rules in favor of his team (normal), but on the end FIA make decisions...
LoL
FIA is to the whole of F1, what UN is to the world. Puppets in the hands of a few. FIA has been dancing to the tunes of one/two 'big-teams' / 'big-money' in FoM, since the days of Balestre (or since even earlier) and the only time I thought there were even 'reasonably strict' was when Ross Brawn defined the chassis rules for the just concluded ground effect era, not because they suddenly became saints, but because the rules were iron-tight from the onset. Even then, we had TD039, disguised as a 'safety call', lobbied by you-know-who. I can live with all that, have been a fan of F1, despite being aware of the 'paper-tiger' that FIA actually is, etc etc.
Just that when you say 'FIA make decisions' , it cracks me up.
Actually I said just the same.

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f1316 wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 03:10
FERRARI PUSHES ENERGY RECOVERY TO THE LIMIT: HOW ITS STRATEGY WILL CHANGE AT SUZUKA

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-f ... 47ce7a8d2d
Ferrari believes it can achieve better energy distribution over the lap, but the idea is not so much to chase the W17 on its own terms as to push its own concepts to the extreme, exploiting the potential of its smaller turbo.

The Scuderia aims to maximise energy harvesting in slower sections and during transitions, possibly using a lower gear in certain situations to keep engine revs high: Enrico Gualtieri’s engine department is trying to optimise the qualities of the 067/6 power unit, aware that the fine setup to extract all available power has not yet been fully found.
Also says they have 6-7 kgs to lose, which sounds like a lot for them to be this competitive, but good news if true
The SF26 was declared at only 2kg overweight. Do they maybe mean that weight savings are coming of 6 to 7 kg, which would be helpful for ballast.?

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The comparative data, even with Haas, show that the standard wing of the Ferrari SF-26 doesn't have the efficiency of the competition, which is why the Macarena wing is more important than it seems
https://x.com/GiulyDuchessa/status/2036756578011935193
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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 15:31
The comparative data, even with Haas, show that the standard wing of the Ferrari SF-26 doesn't have the efficiency of the competition, which is why the Macarena wing is more important than it seems
https://x.com/GiulyDuchessa/status/2036756578011935193
It's not surprising. They clearly have put a decent amount of time into the macarena wing, most likely at the expense of the regular style wing.

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Waz wrote:
24 Mar 2026, 23:09
It's obvious that Mercedes has a MUCH better hybrid system. Their deployment is seriously advanced compared to the rest of the grid. Almost like they are in Year 2, while the others figure it out.

If Toto spotted the FE advantage, then fair play.
It's all ICE power making the difference.

They don't sacrifice as much acceleration when harvesting. Conversely, they can harvest at a higher rate for the same acceleration. Remember that all the energy comes from the crankshaft.

The way the energy is deployed has already converged quite dramatically in the first two races. They certainly have more freedom in that respect due to the power advantage.

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venkyhere wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 13:56
FDD wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 11:37
AnotherAlex wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 01:31


Of course every team principal tries to shape the regulations to suit their team, but the FIA do appear to have allowed themselves to be manoeuvred into making a number of poor decisions (blocking front axle regen and an excessive reliance on electrical power, not to mention the compression ratio farce) that only seem to benefit Mercedes.
Yes, the problem is not in MERC, but in FIA if they allowed to be "maneuvered" and it is well known fact that Toto is a big "influencer". However every TP wants to influence the rules in favor of his team (normal), but on the end FIA make decisions...
LoL
FIA is to the whole of F1, what UN is to the world. Puppets in the hands of a few. FIA has been dancing to the tunes of one/two 'big-teams' / 'big-money' in FoM, since the days of Balestre (or since even earlier) and the only time I thought there were even 'reasonably strict' was when Ross Brawn defined the chassis rules for the just concluded ground effect era, not because they suddenly became saints, but because the rules were iron-tight from the onset. Even then, we had TD039, disguised as a 'safety call', lobbied by you-know-who. I can live with all that, have been a fan of F1, despite being aware of the 'paper-tiger' that FIA actually is, etc etc.
Just that when you say 'FIA make decisions' , it cracks me up.
Makes me wonder why a certain energy drink team is the most hated for winning in a system already gamed by the big money

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brakeboosted wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 15:55
It's all ICE power making the difference.
It's shocking how many people don't understand this simple fact.

How much power KERS can harvest and deploy, is directly related to the output of the ICE.
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The car is draggier than the Mercedes. This can be worth more than 10hp from the ICE. Extra drag consumes deployment irreversibly. Likewise a Macarena wing that gives them 4-5km/h on the straights is worth more than 10hp.
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Front brake duct cooling update and potentially the return of the winglets on the halo but in titanium if they arrive in time (but its not essential) for Ferrari in Japan


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Waz wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 14:41
f1316 wrote:
25 Mar 2026, 03:10
FERRARI PUSHES ENERGY RECOVERY TO THE LIMIT: HOW ITS STRATEGY WILL CHANGE AT SUZUKA

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-f ... 47ce7a8d2d
Ferrari believes it can achieve better energy distribution over the lap, but the idea is not so much to chase the W17 on its own terms as to push its own concepts to the extreme, exploiting the potential of its smaller turbo.

The Scuderia aims to maximise energy harvesting in slower sections and during transitions, possibly using a lower gear in certain situations to keep engine revs high: Enrico Gualtieri’s engine department is trying to optimise the qualities of the 067/6 power unit, aware that the fine setup to extract all available power has not yet been fully found.
Also says they have 6-7 kgs to lose, which sounds like a lot for them to be this competitive, but good news if true
The SF26 was declared at only 2kg overweight. Do they maybe mean that weight savings are coming of 6 to 7 kg, which would be helpful for ballast.?
Yes, I do think that must be what they meant, but agree it’s unclear (at first I was confused how they could be that much over weight).

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FDD wrote:
24 Mar 2026, 22:07
Interesting:
"Formula E founder Alejandro Agag says Toto Wolff is the "main force" behind F1's new electric-heavy engine rules.
Agag suggests Wolff used Mercedes' Formula E knowledge to shape regulations that BENEFIT his team.
Fueling criticism from drivers that F1 is becoming too similar to Formula E."

Most probably MERC has more efficient hybrid part and a way better optimized software, cause of 2 years knowledge/experience from Formula E and according to this speculation gain from impact on regulations shaping.
Since FER ICE is transitional one the first thing for update is the ICE and in the meantime learning how to optimized the software better.
New ICE should bring more power needed on the straights after the electrical deployment is finished and more power for harvesting.
Hmmmm.... If MERC is transferring knowledge from Formula E then does this not apply to the cost structure? What are the rules?

If not then why doesn't Ferrari work on formula 1 engines outside of the team, as a skunk works project, and then just apply knowledge and advancements when needed.