2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Big Tea
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Spoutnik wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:06
Big Tea wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:02
Beginning to look more like Ferrari will be fighting Mercedes by season end.
This is going to be one that got away. I had the inkling very early this year it was going to be a self inflicted too, but still had hopes. Now it looks like Merc are catching up and second and third places are going to be critical.
What are you talking about the pole of Russell is the carbon copy of Alonso' P2 in Montreal. He will be off the pace in race for sure. The only threat for Ferrari on some track could be Hamilton cause he has some sort of extra energy in race pace.

Tomorrow it's easy for Ferrari they are way faster than Russell, they just have to be careful through turn 1. Russell will fight with the McL and Alpine.
Yeh, Russell will take 2-3 laps to bring his tyres i, but I mean in general, no specifics. Ferrari should be almost a hundred points infront of where they are by this stage and not have to look over their shoulder


Btw, Russell and Ham will come back into it as the dace progresses so dont dismiss them or Max
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Interesting...
Sainz: “There is an underlying issue that we cannot really get rid of this year, so we know we need to work on it for next year, and this year we are maximising what we have. […]

“Some starts are pretty good, others are a bit on the limit. Hopefully, tomorrow is one of those days where the starts are pretty good. (The issue) It’s something else and I’m not going to go into detail, but it’s something underlying on the car.”
Wonder if its the same clutch issue Alfa has.

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Overtaking is difficult here though?

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Big Tea wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:02
Beginning to look more like Ferrari will be fighting Mercedes by season end.
This is going to be one that got away. I had the inkling very early this year it was going to be a self inflicted too, but still had hopes. Now it looks like Merc are catching up and second and third places are going to be critical.
That is a big jump haha.

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dfegan358 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:18
Overtaking is difficult here though?
With the new reg I think it's easier as you can stay very close through the end of S2 and S3. But the DRS is less powerful.
Most of the overtakes could happen at T3 I believe

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Spoutnik wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:25
dfegan358 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:18
Overtaking is difficult here though?
With the new reg I think it's easier as you can stay very close through the end of S2 and S3. But the DRS is less powerful.
Most of the overtakes could happen at T3 I believe
Following thru S3 will be a nightmare even in these cars. So many slow corners, but at least Ferrari do well with their pitstops so they can be a threat there.
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I believe with aggressive line you can overtake in the straight after T3 as Hamilton showed us last year.

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I read it somewhere.
Probably makes sense.
So,to win the race from strategy you need a driver to undercut GR and the other one to go longer and faster.

I am not sure they will implement this, but makes sense

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I think one Ferrari will get the jump on Russell off the line down to T1. Its important they get a good strategy for a potential under/overcut on Russell.

It will certainly be good to see if the Ferrari can follow closely like the RB did last week at France.
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AMuS:

"Ferrari had a problem getting the tyres into their window in the cooler conditions. Otherwise they would have been running circles around the competition again. This suggests that Ferrari tuned their cars for tyre stroking after Friday's findings and underestimated the drop in temperature. But it could be an advantage in the race."

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tpe wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 20:08
I read it somewhere.
Probably makes sense.
So,to win the race from strategy you need a driver to undercut GR and the other one to go longer and faster.

I am not sure they will implement this, but makes sense
The issue is that if Russell keeps the lead after T1 he'll drive slow, if he can hold the two Ferrari. So it will be a bit like Singapore 2019 where Leclerc drive slow to prevent any undercut/extrastopper strategy because the rest of the field is too close.

They need to pass him on track on the first stint.
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Spoutnik wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 21:00
tpe wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 20:08
I read it somewhere.
Probably makes sense.
So,to win the race from strategy you need a driver to undercut GR and the other one to go longer and faster.

I am not sure they will implement this, but makes sense
The issue is that if Russell keeps the lead after T1 he'll drive slow, if he can hold the two Ferrari. So it will be a bit like Singapore 2019 were Leclerc drive slow to prevent any undercut/extrastopper strategy because the rest of the field is too close.

They need to pass him on track on the first stint.
That will only work if theres space where he will come out after pitstop though.

If your driving slow, your more likely for your rival to undercut you into clean slot behind and stick a good few laps in, then the extra pace will mean the car going slow will come out behind.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 21:04
Spoutnik wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 21:00
tpe wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 20:08
I read it somewhere.
Probably makes sense.
So,to win the race from strategy you need a driver to undercut GR and the other one to go longer and faster.

I am not sure they will implement this, but makes sense
The issue is that if Russell keeps the lead after T1 he'll drive slow, if he can hold the two Ferrari. So it will be a bit like Singapore 2019 were Leclerc drive slow to prevent any undercut/extrastopper strategy because the rest of the field is too close.

They need to pass him on track on the first stint.
That will only work if theres space where he will come out after pitstop though.

If your driving slow, your more likely for your rival to undercut you into clean slot behind and stick a good few laps in, then the extra pace will mean the car going slow will come out behind.
It doesn't work if the field is very close as I said. The "undercutter" will end up in the trafic. Even if he has a big tyre advantage he will lose time. The leader will then stop and has a big chance to extend his lead if the one/two laps allow him to avoid trafic.

The second car (let's say the second Ferrari in 3rd position) will then go for the overcut hoping for a SC or a better tyre deg allowing him to extend and then stop later fo avoid traffic (Hamilton at Imola 2020 i.e).

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So according to Charles, something was wrong with the car yesterday.
I wonder what happened.


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JPower wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:10
Interesting...
Sainz: “There is an underlying issue that we cannot really get rid of this year, so we know we need to work on it for next year, and this year we are maximising what we have. […]

“Some starts are pretty good, others are a bit on the limit. Hopefully, tomorrow is one of those days where the starts are pretty good. (The issue) It’s something else and I’m not going to go into detail, but it’s something underlying on the car.”
Wonder if its the same clutch issue Alfa has.
If I’m not mistaken, Ferrari updated some bits in the clutch last race for them and the customer teams. It appeared to have helped a little with come of the oscillations int the starts. They looked to have a slightly better start last race. Hopefully the upgrade helps here as well.