The aero effect is almost 0. The only impact is when they use the brakes, the car will probably dive less to the ground.godlameroso wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 21:36The construction itself is stiffer, ie stiffer sidewalls, less deflection. This alone wreaks havoc with the suspension kinematics, but also aerodynamically.
Sorry @Hino, I didn't see that your post was a link. I thought it was only a sentence.
The car suspension has to be set up to take advantage of the stiffer construction, which means you're altering alignment. They take more heat to work so you have to add scrub to the tires, particularly the fronts, so they stay within the temp range. Changing the front toe affects not just aero but car balance as well.yener wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 10:17The aero effect is almost 0. The only impact is when they use the brakes, the car will probably dive less to the ground.godlameroso wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 21:36The construction itself is stiffer, ie stiffer sidewalls, less deflection. This alone wreaks havoc with the suspension kinematics, but also aerodynamically.
As I said few days ago, I hope that Hitachi have something to do with the electrical parts of the PU like the ES...godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 14:50"In producing this Spec 3 PU, we have updated the turbocharger thanks to the knowledge and technology of the Aero engine department in the area of aerodynamic design, working alongside turbocharger manufacturer IHI."
Probably meaning turbo blade geometry in order to increase the efficiency island of the turbo?
"Our test bench data shows a power increase over the previous version of our PU, however we know that we have not yet matched the figures from the manufacturers currently leading the championship. "
So it is a bump over spec 2 but not enough to close the gap. I hope it gets the Bulls a little closer.
Hitachi? Honda's subsidiary for ES is Yuasa.Marti_EF3 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 16:24As I said few days ago, I hope that Hitachi have something to do with the electrical parts of the PU like the ES...godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 14:50"In producing this Spec 3 PU, we have updated the turbocharger thanks to the knowledge and technology of the Aero engine department in the area of aerodynamic design, working alongside turbocharger manufacturer IHI."
Probably meaning turbo blade geometry in order to increase the efficiency island of the turbo?
"Our test bench data shows a power increase over the previous version of our PU, however we know that we have not yet matched the figures from the manufacturers currently leading the championship. "
So it is a bump over spec 2 but not enough to close the gap. I hope it gets the Bulls a little closer.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... xSV15.htmlMaplesoup wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 08:44
So again as i said there is no evidence of new packaging, only a power upgrade that could come from any part of the power unit.
We need to stop stating speculation as fact, if its your opinion or a theory you have then fantastic but state it as such rather than trying to convince people that what you are saying is true.
It's only a guess, because they have a partnership with Hitachi too. The ES was for an exampleispano6 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 16:35Hitachi? Honda's subsidiary for ES is Yuasa.Marti_EF3 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 16:24As I said few days ago, I hope that Hitachi have something to do with the electrical parts of the PU like the ES...godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 14:50"In producing this Spec 3 PU, we have updated the turbocharger thanks to the knowledge and technology of the Aero engine department in the area of aerodynamic design, working alongside turbocharger manufacturer IHI."
Probably meaning turbo blade geometry in order to increase the efficiency island of the turbo?
"Our test bench data shows a power increase over the previous version of our PU, however we know that we have not yet matched the figures from the manufacturers currently leading the championship. "
So it is a bump over spec 2 but not enough to close the gap. I hope it gets the Bulls a little closer.
Yea that wasn't aimed at you previously. It was aimed at the people going on about how the packaging was going to suddenly change.ispano6 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 16:54https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... xSV15.htmlMaplesoup wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 08:44
So again as i said there is no evidence of new packaging, only a power upgrade that could come from any part of the power unit.
We need to stop stating speculation as fact, if its your opinion or a theory you have then fantastic but state it as such rather than trying to convince people that what you are saying is true.
What did I tell you. Spec3 is exactly the upgrade I "speculated". And to answer your question, they worked with the Honda aero turbine department for various reasons I won't go into, but rest assured Honda is utilizing all resources necessary to close the gap.
Not evidence this is part of Spec 3 but I believe this is the article that have people started talking about Honda PU Packaging. The article came out in April and people would expect some of those communication between RBR and Honda makes some changes to Spec 3 which RBR is also bringing car upgrade to at the same time. Just a 'speculative' link of the 2 based on timing.
