and he got cleanly passed by alonso in the first few laps, his limitations were shown yesterday.myurr wrote:In Germany Vettel fell back by mishap and without car damage. He spun in the first stint and flat spotted the tyres which lost him 1 - 2 seconds a lap for the remainder of that stint, and the rear brakes overheated which contributed to the poor pace at that point. From the second stint onwards though the brakes were fine and he had new tyres, however he was unable to make much impression on track. He failed to overtake Massa, made another mistake on the one time he got close in the DRS zone and overshot the corner, and had to rely on his pit crew to get past.Shrieker wrote:To the comments regarding Webber's performance in China I agree to some extent. But like Mandrake said back then Red Bull were A LOT faster than the rest of the field than they are now. Vettel had lost his radio and ran on squished tyres for a very long time so no fair comparision in there imho.
About Vettel being unable to slice through the field. If memory serves me right, we never had a situation where Vettel fell back by mishap (and without car damage) and had to just climb back. Had he been in Webber's shoes in China could he have pulled it off ? I have no doubts. Do remember that Webber didn't pass 5 Hamilton's and 6 Alonso's on track there.
@Hampusa,
Not a fighter with sharp teeth he is maybe, but with todays point scoring system you'd want a calm and collected driver in the cockpit rather than an all out attacking one, sadly. Sadly, because the ones who do attack are the ones who create excitement. Having said that, it's worth noting that had Lewis refrained from sticking his nose along Massa's rear wheel in Monza last year, he'd be a double world champion by now. IMHO Vettel wouldn't have done that. Now there's an arguement
You can hear the revs fall rapidly in the onboard shots....he just doesn't know / isn't able to start that RB7 quickly....myurr wrote:Wonder if it's just a reflection of Webber's preferred mechanical setup.
This is bacause the Ferrari was almost equal (a bit slower) with the RedBull. This is Alonso's "6 tenths" in it's glory.Mandrake wrote:
In danger of running too much offtopic: In Silverstone the Ferrari was not beatable, fact! Even with a perfect pit stop the Ferrari went berzerk in S2.
That sounded to me like the clutch was starting to drag which is nothing to do with the driver - the BBC boys said basically the same thing when it was replayed.Mandrake wrote:You can hear the revs fall rapidly in the onboard shots....he just doesn't know / isn't able to start that RB7 quickly....myurr wrote:Wonder if it's just a reflection of Webber's preferred mechanical setup.
Only the team will know whether he's not doing something he should be, but his starts haven't been as good as those around him for some time now.djos wrote:That sounded to me like the clutch was starting to drag which is nothing to do with the driver - the BBC boys said basically the same thing when it was replayed.
Indeed, I thought at that moment it was still a yellow flag in that area, making the overtake actually illegal.Poleman wrote:I wanted to ask this...Is it me or i get the impression that Hamilton had lifted coz of the yellow flags at the chicane and Webber not,thus he was alongside to Lewis?Or actually Hamilton slowed a down a bit too much?I recall a radio from/to the time at the incident.
wesley123 wrote:Indeed, I thought at that moment it was still a yellow flag in that area, making the overtake actually illegal.Poleman wrote:I wanted to ask this...Is it me or i get the impression that Hamilton had lifted coz of the yellow flags at the chicane and Webber not,thus he was alongside to Lewis?Or actually Hamilton slowed a down a bit too much?I recall a radio from/to the time at the incident.