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organic wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:10
organic wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 15:50
Better quality comparison photos of the two different engine covers run in the filming day

I believe most of the difference in appearance is due to lighting, but there's certainly a large difference in terms of sharkfin

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https://i.imgur.com/zy1uEPa.jpeg
Article talks about the engine cover comparison and clarified that the spec 1, trimmed engine cover is the one that will be in use for the season

And they also talk about the car being able to run higher wings without balance issues unlike the sf-23. Which means tyre wear can be better and drs effect can be greater

Looks like due to cost cap they decided to invest in new rear wings rather than new rear suspension.

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organic wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:10
I thought the wing looked small from the side/.75 angle but from this thumbnail it looks huge. Close to full size

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The rear suspension IS new, to not understand this shows significant lack of knowledge as to what they've worked on.

The rear wing is now exposed to fundamental change in upstream airflow....this from moving the side impact lower provision and opening the volume of air going through that space between the floor top and sidepod underside, ultimately making the entire rear flow architecture conform to new design direction.
The NEW rear suspension has been designed to optimum in enhancing underfloor flow volume/strategy, also feeding into difference in rear wing provision to accommodate these considerable developments.

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There's very little change in upstream flow for rear wing, all of it is in the airbox/Halo level and above. The reason behind the redesign is DRS effectiveness, this has been confirmed by the team. I would say it's also meant to "drive" the beam wing in a bit different manner than 22/23 cars did. The new RW range will be designed in the same manner as Spa 23 low-df wing, which was also combined with a single-piece beam wing:

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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Interesting that they're back to curving the bottom of the DRS flap, this was a big factor in their DRS weakness at the beginning of 2022, which they began to fix with the Austria spec wing that year where the flap was made as big as possible, why would they then go back to curving the bottom edge like that and reducing the flap size?

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Cover specifications used in Fiorano

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wowgr8 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 14:19
why would they then go back to curving the bottom edge like that and reducing the flap size?
Is it reduced, though? With the shape of the wing that they chose (higly convex in the middle) the cord length of the DRS flap is more or less proportional to the cord length of the entire wing along the wingspan. To make the flap flat, they'd have to reduce its size, as I doubt there's room to increase the cord legth at the wingtips.

BTW this is a Rear Wing and as always there will be several iterations for different tracks.

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bagajohny wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:51
organic wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:10
organic wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 15:50
Better quality comparison photos of the two different engine covers run in the filming day

I believe most of the difference in appearance is due to lighting, but there's certainly a large difference in terms of sharkfin

📸 Ama.m_photo

https://i.imgur.com/zy1uEPa.jpeg
Article talks about the engine cover comparison and clarified that the spec 1, trimmed engine cover is the one that will be in use for the season

And they also talk about the car being able to run higher wings without balance issues unlike the sf-23. Which means tyre wear can be better and drs effect can be greater

Looks like due to cost cap they decided to invest in new rear wings rather than new rear suspension.
But they also redesigned the rear suspension.

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organic wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:10
organic wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 15:50
Better quality comparison photos of the two different engine covers run in the filming day

I believe most of the difference in appearance is due to lighting, but there's certainly a large difference in terms of sharkfin

📸 Ama.m_photo

https://i.imgur.com/zy1uEPa.jpeg
Article talks about the engine cover comparison and clarified that the spec 1, trimmed engine cover is the one that will be in use for the season

And they also talk about the car being able to run higher wings without balance issues unlike the sf-23. Which means tyre wear can be better and drs effect can be greater

That RW looks a bit like the one redbull used to run in bahrain the last two years..

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FDD wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 15:43
Cover specifications used in Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/wp-content/uploads/ ... -white.jpg
What would be the purpose of this? Yaw control? Generating downwash from the departure angle of the fin?
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AR3-GP wrote:
FDD wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 15:43
Cover specifications used in Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/wp-content/uploads/ ... -white.jpg
What would be the purpose of this? Yaw control? Generating downwash from the departure angle of the fin?
Shark fins help the car turning

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FDD wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 15:43
Cover specifications used in Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/wp-content/uploads/ ... -white.jpg
Can a more pronounced shark fin increase the wind sensitivity of the car?

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dialtone wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 18:04
AR3-GP wrote:
FDD wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 15:43
Cover specifications used in Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/wp-content/uploads/ ... -white.jpg
What would be the purpose of this? Yaw control? Generating downwash from the departure angle of the fin?
Shark fins help the car turning
How do they help in turning?

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bagajohny wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 19:25
dialtone wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 18:04
AR3-GP wrote:
What would be the purpose of this? Yaw control? Generating downwash from the departure angle of the fin?
Shark fins help the car turning
How do they help in turning?


Good explanation.