HRT F111 Cosworth

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HRT dampers held by Spanish customs... hmmm... yeah, sure...

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So they are more or less in the same Place as they were last year. Not turning a wheel in their new car until free practice at the first race.
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ESPImperium wrote: Pirelli TV days, seemingly they spent 3 days there, and Hispania will be paying less for their Pirelli tyres for doing TV work for Pirelli. Also it gives Pirelli data for high speed as well, as Hispania could take the flap off and run the F110 like what the GP2/08s did in GP2 to reduce drag. Id not be surprised if they ditched Retifilio and run from Paribolica to Variante Della Roggia. It would be scary as F going arround Curva Grande at 310+ KMph.

Id love to know how many laps Hispania have done in the 3 days the spent at Monza.
Tony Cuquerella explain in a spanish f1 magazine that following filming day rules they only did 100km each day, also, most of laps following a camera car so not more than first gear.

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I've seen some teams use Penske dampers, maybe HRT have them also.

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I believe they are using Penske dampers

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Looking at the conditions at Barcelona today, HRT aren't exactly missing much. It is pretty crazy they've got themselves in the same situation as last year though...

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What worries me even more, this was supposed to be the Bahrain GP weekend! I really want this underdog team to succeed but this is not good, makes me wonder if the dampers are not the real issue? If this is the case then HRT are extremely lucky the Bahrain GP was cancelled!

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Kolles mentioned yesterday that if this were Barhain, the car wouldn't have been as developed.

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dice782 wrote:What worries me even more, this was supposed to be the Bahrain GP weekend! I really want this underdog team to succeed but this is not good, makes me wonder if the dampers are not the real issue? If this is the case then HRT are extremely lucky the Bahrain GP was cancelled!
The DRS seen yesterday was not expected for Bahrain GP, the 2 weeks delay let them follow the development.

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The front wing is similar to Brawn 2009 unit.

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After 3 or 4 races HRT will reliably qualify within 107%, regardless of if they are competitive with Team Lotus and Virgin.

HRT qualifying will be an interesting subplot in Australia. They have to take their best shot in Q1, then wait nervously until Q3 to find out if they were good enough. Last year their heroic effort got both cars in the first race (pre-107%) but if they can't qualify this year it will be a step back.

It will be interesting to see how all the teams perform during Aussie qualy, but in terms of high-pressure must-succeed performance it's all about HRT.

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Kolles is really my hero.
That guy has no credit anywhere so has to pay everything upfront or even in advance and still managed to get the damn thing ready against all odds.They are late yes..but this time it was not putting the finishing touches on a ready project it was the whole shebang all new ... =D> =D>
HRT has now also designed and build the car ..kolles is a competent guy no question and for the money and time available the result just looks stunning,a lot better than lotus last year.

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JGomezH wrote:The front wing is similar to Brawn 2009 unit.

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Holy shiz, they look really similar, so that's how far HRT are behind?
Finally, everyone knows that Red Bull is a joke and Max Verstappen is overrated.

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Actually I think it might be a step forward for them. Have you seen wing from F110? This car might be faster than their last year dog. And other teams probably got slower so I'm not afraid of them not being able to qualify at least. Maybe not at the first race, because they might have reliability and set-up issues, but after getting accustomed to their new package, I think they'll be able to meet 107% requirement.

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bill shoe wrote:After 3 or 4 races HRT will reliably qualify within 107%, regardless of if they are competitive with Team Lotus and Virgin.

HRT qualifying will be an interesting subplot in Australia. They have to take their best shot in Q1, then wait nervously until Q3 to find out if they were good enough. Last year their heroic effort got both cars in the first race (pre-107%) but if they can't qualify this year it will be a step back.

It will be interesting to see how all the teams perform during Aussie qualy, but in terms of high-pressure must-succeed performance it's all about HRT.
107% only is active in Q1 this year, not Q2 or Q3. In 2010 their average for Car 20 (Chandhok/Yamamotto/Klien) was 7.49% behing Pole and Car 21 (Senna/Yamamotto @ Silverstone was 7.26% behind pole. The figures i collated over 2010 were all to Pole time in Q3, so in Q1, they were within the 107% rule easily, trust me. Hispanias worst tracs were Bahrain, Austrailia, Spain, Britian, Hungary, Belgum (Freak Quali), Singapore, Korea and Brazil (Freak Quali). However Canada could be in there, but its not due to Chandhok being lumbered with a crap gearbox and being unable to select 7th gear. Most of the leading teams introduced updates at those races as well, if the teams had to race the same spec all year, im confedent to say that Hispania would have managed to put as much as 3 seconds of mecanichal evolution onto the F110.

I have no worries that they will be able to do the same as last year, as they will have 2 cars readily built up for starting FP1 and not joining in for its first laps at the end of FP1 due to the cars being built up in the paddock. And they will have the gearbox trouble they had with the Xtrac with 17 gearbox changes accross both cars in 2010 as Williams last year with the same gearbox as Hispania have in 2011 only had 9 accross both cars. And the F111 will get aero updates as well. It dosnt make sence to me that Marussia Virgin dosnt go with the Williams LG14 gearbox as well as they had 21 gearbox changes accross the season last year with the Xtrac.

If The F111 is using Penskie dampers, i am thinking they will be using the same suspension setup that Lotus ran last year in the T128 as they ran Penskie last year, and will do so this as well, but with a diffrent front suspension system thats more modren. Sounds to me like the F111 will have J Dampers this year, as the F110 didnt have any sort of refinements like J Dampers on its suspension.

The F111 will make a leap forward on the F110, how far, im not sure.