2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
User avatar
Jambier
5
Joined: 07 Mar 2018, 11:02
Location: France

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

Good thing that Ferrari will get ADUO.
It also means that they are far away…

But Mercedes, McLaren and Red Bull not having it still is encouraging for Ferrari.

Others teams to have it will be Audi and Aston (Honda)

User avatar
S D
12
Joined: 17 Mar 2022, 23:00
Location: Canada

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

If the Emergency Safety Mode is intended purely as a safety feature and the MGU-K power must ramp down in 50 kW steps, one second at a time at the end of a straight or lap preventing teams from using full power right up to the finish line or braking point Then why is the FIA permitting the activation of the emergency cut-off right at the end of a flying lap? This effectively maintains full power.

User avatar
F1NAC
173
Joined: 31 Mar 2013, 22:35

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

Dunno if anyone mentioned but Ferrari did 2 seconds stop which is now the fastest this season.

Shows still great consistency by pitstop team

Xyz22
Xyz22
125
Joined: 16 Feb 2022, 20:05

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

F1NAC wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 09:37
Dunno if anyone mentioned but Ferrari did 2 seconds stop which is now the fastest this season.

Shows still great consistency by pitstop team
Impressive work by Diego Ioverno.

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
566
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

I just am not getting the championship feeling from the team yet. Sorry for Charles that he has to wait another year or two to really fight. Knowing Mercedes they still have a lot of their sleeve. McLaren has found a new way. And RedBull's engine is strong, they will start back on their usually very effecive train of chassis upgrades. I just don't see us winning until we make a truly dominant car again.
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

LM10
LM10
126
Joined: 07 Mar 2018, 00:07

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 20:21
I just am not getting the championship feeling from the team yet. Sorry for Charles that he has to wait another year or two to really fight. Knowing Mercedes they still have a lot of their sleeve. McLaren has found a new way. And RedBull's engine is strong, they will start back on their usually very effecive train of chassis upgrades. I just don't see us winning until we make a truly dominant car again.
Ferrari is only lacking on the PU front. The word “only” sounds stupid in this engine formula, but it’s still just a single factor. The rest of the car is completely up to scratch.
Sempre Forza Ferrari

User avatar
atanatizante
133
Joined: 10 Mar 2011, 15:33

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

Which of the following information from the Italian media is pure fantasy, and which is actually feasible?

Ferrari's "B-Spec" Engine Revolution for Miami

Ferrari is reportedly set to debut a massive "B-spec" engine upgrade in Miami aimed at fixing the straight-line speed "nightmare" that has plagued Lewis Hamilton’s SF26 so far this season. After a disappointing showing at Suzuka, Maranello has re-engineered the power unit to provide a staggering 10 km/h boost in terminal velocity.

Key Technical Upgrades:

Combustion & Fuel: A new piston crown design and high-pressure fuel from Shell allow the ICE to hit the 16:1 compression limit. This generates "virtual horsepower," reducing the burden on the MGU-K.

Energy Management: A rewritten algorithm moves away from "dumping" power early. The new deployment strategy ensures the electrical boost lasts the full length of the straight, effectively killing the "clipping ghost" (power loss before the braking zone).

Thermal Efficiency: Revised internal airflow and better battery insulation allow the hybrid system to run 5°C hotter without derating, crucial for the Florida heat.

Driveability: New "torque fill linearization" software smoothens the transition between the turbo and MGU-K. This gives Hamilton the rear-end stability needed to return to his signature "V-shaped" cornering lines.

The Impact:

Top Speed: Terminal velocity is projected to jump from 338 km/h to 348 km/h.

Lap Time: Simulations suggest a gain of 0.8 seconds per lap from the engine alone.

Strategy: By delaying electrical clipping by 400m, Ferrari estimates a 15-second gain over a full race distance.

Personnel: New race engineer Cedric Michelle Grojean (formerly McLaren) is tasked with optimizing these new mapping windows for Lewis.

The Bottom Line: This isn't just a minor tweak; it’s a hardware revolution designed to turn Hamilton from a "sitting duck" back into a "predator." With the "Macarena Wing 2.0" (active aero) stalling to reduce drag at peak speeds, Ferrari is finally operating at its true theoretical potential.

Is this enough to close the 1.4s gap to Mercedes and McLaren, or is it too little too late for the 2026 title race?
"I don`t have all the answers. Try Google!"
Jesus

johnnycesup
johnnycesup
7
Joined: 13 Sep 2024, 11:31

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

To me it really depends on who's reporting it, but here's my take
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Combustion & Fuel: A new piston crown design and high-pressure fuel from Shell allow the ICE to hit the 16:1 compression limit. This generates "virtual horsepower," reducing the burden on the MGU-K.
It wouldn't be "virtual" horsepower, but actual horsepower. And I don't see how it reduces the burden on the MGUK very much, you still want to use it anyway you can get away with. The "high pressure fuel" part is BS IMO.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Energy Management: A rewritten algorithm moves away from "dumping" power early. The new deployment strategy ensures the electrical boost lasts the full length of the straight, effectively killing the "clipping ghost" (power loss before the braking zone).
The part about killing the clipping ghost is impossible without a regulation change, even the Mercedes clips halfway down the Shanghai straight. As for moving on from "dumping power early", unless they were actually wasting energy with wheelspin it's generally better to use your energy early into the straight than later on. There should be algorithm changes, so it's not 100% BS.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Thermal Efficiency: Revised internal airflow and better battery insulation allow the hybrid system to run 5°C hotter without derating, crucial for the Florida heat.
Do you want the hybrid part to run hotter? Or maybe they mean the ICE could run hotter without impacting the hybrid
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Driveability: New "torque fill linearization" software smoothens the transition between the turbo and MGU-K. This gives Hamilton the rear-end stability needed to return to his signature "V-shaped" cornering lines.
Yeah, there should be software improvements, IDK if that part is what they mean.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Top Speed: Terminal velocity is projected to jump from 338 km/h to 348 km/h.
Without any aero updates this seems like a pretty massive gain, maybe too good to be true? From my calculations it's about 60hp, so a pretty major step.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Lap Time: Simulations suggest a gain of 0.8 seconds per lap from the engine alone.
0.8s seems small for a 60hp improvement.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Strategy: By delaying electrical clipping by 400m, Ferrari estimates a 15-second gain over a full race distance.
Again, 400m is absolutely massive, over 4 seconds. I don't believe that.
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
With the "Macarena Wing 2.0" (active aero) stalling to reduce drag at peak speeds
My understanding of the Macarena wing is that there is no stalling at all, they are trying to disturb the airflow as little as possible.

Fakepivot
Fakepivot
1
Joined: 13 Jul 2023, 10:19

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Which of the following information from the Italian media is pure fantasy, and which is actually feasible?

Ferrari's "B-Spec" Engine Revolution for Miami

Ferrari is reportedly set to debut a massive "B-spec" engine upgrade in Miami aimed at fixing the straight-line speed "nightmare" that has plagued Lewis Hamilton’s SF26 so far this season. After a disappointing showing at Suzuka, Maranello has re-engineered the power unit to provide a staggering 10 km/h boost in terminal velocity.

Key Technical Upgrades:

Combustion & Fuel: A new piston crown design and high-pressure fuel from Shell allow the ICE to hit the 16:1 compression limit. This generates "virtual horsepower," reducing the burden on the MGU-K.

Energy Management: A rewritten algorithm moves away from "dumping" power early. The new deployment strategy ensures the electrical boost lasts the full length of the straight, effectively killing the "clipping ghost" (power loss before the braking zone).

Thermal Efficiency: Revised internal airflow and better battery insulation allow the hybrid system to run 5°C hotter without derating, crucial for the Florida heat.

Driveability: New "torque fill linearization" software smoothens the transition between the turbo and MGU-K. This gives Hamilton the rear-end stability needed to return to his signature "V-shaped" cornering lines.

The Impact:

Top Speed: Terminal velocity is projected to jump from 338 km/h to 348 km/h.

Lap Time: Simulations suggest a gain of 0.8 seconds per lap from the engine alone.

Strategy: By delaying electrical clipping by 400m, Ferrari estimates a 15-second gain over a full race distance.

Personnel: New race engineer Cedric Michelle Grojean (formerly McLaren) is tasked with optimizing these new mapping windows for Lewis.

The Bottom Line: This isn't just a minor tweak; it’s a hardware revolution designed to turn Hamilton from a "sitting duck" back into a "predator." With the "Macarena Wing 2.0" (active aero) stalling to reduce drag at peak speeds, Ferrari is finally operating at its true theoretical potential.

Is this enough to close the 1.4s gap to Mercedes and McLaren, or is it too little too late for the 2026 title race?
man if Italian media can stop writing this kind of crap that would be great, how do they know information about gain in sec and top speed and what not.. this kind of unwarranted hype is what brings down the team imo..

User avatar
ScuderiaLeo
0
Joined: 20 May 2024, 15:29
Location: Mexico

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

Why would you share info without even citing a source? The credibility of "Italian media" varies wildly depending on the author

LM10
LM10
126
Joined: 07 Mar 2018, 00:07

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

This is not an article. It’s out of an AI-produced clickbait YouTube video. Totally to be ignored.
Sempre Forza Ferrari

Sbrillo88
Sbrillo88
1
Joined: 25 Feb 2025, 12:41

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

happy easter everyone!
Motorsport IT saids that Ferrari could have ADUO2 (over 4% from the benchmark) but doesn't mention the other constructors. They said that Honda and Audi will have ADUO1 and RB will have nothing because is so close to mercedes.
Now, I know these are just rumors but, If these are true, Ferrari have the weakest ICE of the paddock? Even weaker than Honda? It's hard to believe. If this is true they must have a very very strong car on the corners.

User avatar
bananapeel23
30
Joined: 14 Feb 2023, 22:43
Location: Sweden

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

johnnycesup wrote:
05 Apr 2026, 02:42
To me it really depends on who's reporting it, but here's my take
atanatizante wrote:
04 Apr 2026, 22:19
Combustion & Fuel: A new piston crown design and high-pressure fuel from Shell allow the ICE to hit the 16:1 compression limit. This generates "virtual horsepower," reducing the burden on the MGU-K.
It wouldn't be "virtual" horsepower, but actual horsepower. And I don't see how it reduces the burden on the MGUK very much, you still want to use it anyway you can get away with. The "high pressure fuel" part is BS IMO
It reduces the burden on the MGU-K for several reasons.

First of all it means that the MGU-K has to torque fill less before you end up traction limited, saving valuable battery.

Secondly, since these ICE gains are presumably the result of more complete fuel combustion, you end up with more exhaust gases. Those gases wouldn't increase peak ICE power, but they would help to build boost pressure quicker, reducing turbo lag (assuming the turbo remains the same size). This would further reduce the need for the MGU-K to torque fill under traction, despite not increasing peak horsepower. (This could explain the term "virtual" horsepower)

Realistically more exhaust gases should also slightly increase the power of the monkey grill, leading to a slight increase in low-speed downforce.

As for ”high pressure fuel”. It could simply be a fuel that atomizes better, which results in faster and more complete combustion.

Realistically Ferrari will easily run away with the championship if they manage to find even half of the time improvement claimed by the article. We’re three races into a 22 race season. Ferrari is only 45 points down in the constructors championship and Leclerc is only 14 points behind the championship favourite.
Last edited by bananapeel23 on 05 Apr 2026, 17:07, edited 2 times in total.

johnnycesup
johnnycesup
7
Joined: 13 Sep 2024, 11:31

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

bananapeel23 wrote:
05 Apr 2026, 14:31

Secondly, since these ICE gains are presumably the result of more complete fuel combustion, you end up with more exhaust gases.
The post mentions the compression ratio thing and that by itself increases the thermal efficiency of the Otto cycle even if there is no change in the combustion characteristics, so more power. So that's what I was thinking of, I could be wrong of course (and again the post could be made up)

User avatar
bananapeel23
30
Joined: 14 Feb 2023, 22:43
Location: Sweden

Re: 2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

Post

johnnycesup wrote:
05 Apr 2026, 16:10
bananapeel23 wrote:
05 Apr 2026, 14:31

Secondly, since these ICE gains are presumably the result of more complete fuel combustion, you end up with more exhaust gases.
The post mentions the compression ratio thing and that by itself increases the thermal efficiency of the Otto cycle even if there is no change in the combustion characteristics, so more power. So that's what I was thinking of, I could be wrong of course (and again the post could be made up)
Oh I'm certain it is. ADUO is still likely to bring a substantial power increase, but I'd be shocked if it ended up being as much as 8 tenths from ICE power alone, as well as 4 tenths from the MGU-K software. I could see increased deployment efficiency and better cooling efficiency bringing 2-3 tenths, but 8 tenths from the ICE seems wildly optimistic. If they get 2 ADUO upgrades I could see that being a bit more realistic.

My uneducated guess is that the ADUO package (software + ICE + cooling) will be worth anywhere from 4-6 tenths, with the aero package (including new floor and macarena mk. 2) bringing another 2-4 tenths. On the conservative side of that range they are breathing down the neck of the current Mercedes (but not after Mercedes have brought their own upgrades). On the optimistic side they are at parity +- 2 tenths.

So in the best case scenario they might catch up to, or just barely overtake Mercedes, while a more conservative scenario results in the gap perhaps being halved.

If Ferrari somehow manages to get 2 ADUO upgrades it will be an entirely different story. If they are 4% down on ICE power, they must have an insurmountable chassis/aero advantage to be as close as they are. If they get 2 ADUO upgrades and get the ICE power gap to +-1%, they would end up cruising to both championships off the back of their aero, while Haas could end up as a legitimate podium contender.