2019 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Capharol]

Ferrari used to be better than merc in hot conditions.

Yep they were. It still difficult to understand how possible it was to see them in bad shape in Australia

Regarding engine, there are many sites talking about it
https://f1i.auto-moto.com/infos/techniq ... a-rumeurs/

Usually they all go back to one source, with the rest quoting eachother. We do have Leclerc's radio messages. Was there anything peculiar in there?

not that i heard of

[Capharol]

Team Radio Vettel

[taperoo2k]

Bahrain will give us a much better picture of how things stand. I think there is just too much speculation going on now, though I got a feeling it isn't just a wrong setup. Maybe Ferrari struggled with tyre temperature management.

Tyre management and a wrong setup might be what went on. However if the rumours about the
PU are correct then it's a lot more serious for Ferrari and a rather fundamental problem. I doubt they
can simply go back to the last known working configuration of the PU.

[F1NAC]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

wow that disappointment in his voice at the end...

[BwajSF]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss... Looks like set-up and Temps were only problems... Off to Bahrain... and Unleash the Prancing horse..

[Harvester]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss... Looks like set-up and Temps were only problems... Off to Bahrain... and Unleash the Prancing horse..

I also think they don't have serious engine problem. However, what is interesting in this team radio is when Vettel asked: why are we so slow? They just answered: We don't know yet.

If they were slow just because of tires or balance issues Vettel would have known that without asking. Usually when a driver asks about being slow it is something about power.

[marmer]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss... Looks like set-up and Temps were only problems... Off to Bahrain... and Unleash the Prancing horse..

I also think they don't have serious engine problem. However, what is interesting in this team radio is when Vettel asked: why are we so slow? They just answered: We don't know yet.

If they were slow just because of tires or balance issues Vettel would have known that without asking. Usually when a driver asks about being slow it is something about power.

When watching onboard I didn't think the engine was at full power

But it could still be that the car was balanced but slow he had the oldest tyres out of the front lot.

He was still quick when he caught up to Hamilton and most likely just ruined his tyres
Hamilton had a small bit of bodywork missing and clear air mostly so his tyres lasted longer
He didn't block max which suggests a lack of faith in his fronts to actually slow him down. Better tyres he could have easily run max wide

[Juzh]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss...

Look at the sector speed traps troughout the race. ferrari was consistently 5-8 kmh, sometimes up to 10 kmh, down on merc/RB lap after lap, even when their laptimes were sort of good. Something was definitely going on with the PU, vettel simply didn't ask about it because it was known before the race this is how things would be.

The only other explanation is ferrrari has somehow made an extraordinarily draggy car, which we know from qualifying is not the case.

[BwajSF]

Team Radio Vettel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2egSpq ... e=youtu.be

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss...

Look at the sector speed traps troughout the race. ferrari was consistently 5-8 kmh, sometimes up to 10 kmh, down on merc/RB lap after lap, even when their laptimes were sort of good. Something was definitely going on with the PU, vettel simply didn't ask about it because it was known before the race this is how things would be.

The only other explanation is ferrrari has somehow made an extraordinarily draggy car, which we know from qualifying is not the case.

Some driver interviews also articles shed light upon the point that straight line speeds tracking can be misleading for Albert park race.
Because all the straights except the main straight are pretty small and come of corners which rewards a goood front end. As Ferrari Mentioned all weekend they have been struggling to finding the grip overall and specifically the front tyres hence causing the car to be understeery..with a car that is struggling to get its nose into the corner the exit and the point of trottle application post exit becomes much delayed than the ideal point and hence there can be a differential in the straight line speed.
Bahrain will give us the actual values of who has the better engine because there are loonggg straights where the top speed of the car is achievable even with compromised exit in the previous corner.

And you are right about Ferrari SF90 not being draggy because in the fast chicane 11 12.. only Ferrari and Mercs Managed to enter with 260 plus speed. SO kudos to that, our car is on par with speed. it just couldn't use the tyres well.

Vettel also mentioned that he couldnt find grip at all in the medium tyres resulting him being very very slow. But on the other hand Leclerc car was more in zone when the hard tyres came on.
And with technically nothing to gain in the race ferrari may have turned it down have way through the GP.

Mostly under-fueling & understeer let us to perform under our expectation down Under.
So hopefully enough of under... Up and Over to Bahrain...

[Juzh]

If this is the vettel radio complete package, then the speculation of about engine etc doesnt have any traction at all.
If there was anything of that sorts then it would have been surely mentioned on the radio. So all good with Ferrari Engine boyssss...

Look at the sector speed traps troughout the race. ferrari was consistently 5-8 kmh, sometimes up to 10 kmh, down on merc/RB lap after lap, even when their laptimes were sort of good. Something was definitely going on with the PU, vettel simply didn't ask about it because it was known before the race this is how things would be.

The only other explanation is ferrrari has somehow made an extraordinarily draggy car, which we know from qualifying is not the case.

with a car that is struggling to get its nose into the corner the exit and the point of trottle application post exit becomes much delayed than the ideal point and hence there can be a differential in the straight line speed.

I know what you mean, but the speed difference at 270+ kmh would be almost negligible even if you came out of a preceding corner a bit slower. Lets not forget ferrari despite being slow was still much faster than the midfield, and those midfield cars also had much higher speed trap numbers troughout the race. We're not talking trivial numbers here, difference was quite big, and most of all, consistent.

Best case scenario it was a one off. If Bahrain is not a complete reversal of fortunes, then the season might as well be over. This year even the red bull has dropped the ball on the chassis side, so we're probably gonna get another 2016 like ferrari/RB battle with merc far ahead.

[BwajSF]

Look at the sector speed traps troughout the race. ferrari was consistently 5-8 kmh, sometimes up to 10 kmh, down on merc/RB lap after lap, even when their laptimes were sort of good. Something was definitely going on with the PU, vettel simply didn't ask about it because it was known before the race this is how things would be.

The only other explanation is ferrrari has somehow made an extraordinarily draggy car, which we know from qualifying is not the case.

with a car that is struggling to get its nose into the corner the exit and the point of trottle application post exit becomes much delayed than the ideal point and hence there can be a differential in the straight line speed.

I know what you mean, but the speed difference at 270+ kmh would be almost negligible even if you came out of a preceding corner a bit slower. Lets not forget ferrari despite being slow was still much faster than the midfield, and those midfield cars also had much higher speed trap numbers troughout the race. We're not talking trivial numbers here, difference was quite big, and most of all, consistent.

Best case scenario it was a one off. If Bahrain is not a complete reversal of fortunes, then the season might as well be over. This year even the red bull has dropped the ball on the chassis side, so we're probably gonna get another 2016 like ferrari/RB battle with merc far ahead.

Yeah.. what makes me confident about our PU is that Both Haas and Alfa seems to be doing fine in both Quali and Race Speed traps. If it was any concern with the PU or any elements on it they would have been much more cautious.Because look at haas in quali they ended up 0.4 behind Lec and to be realisitic 0.5 behind redbull. if it was down to our PU i bet they wont be that close to us. So it points more towards Ferrari messing the set-up than PU issue.

coming to the best case scenario, i still believe Redbull are never gonna be in the picture unless Ferrari or Mercs Mess it up or a late safety car gives them fresh tyre. Even in Aus race Verstappen podium was a big news it came at the back of 2 Ferraris struggling with issues and a Hamilton with a imperfect floor. while the real pace of Mercs was 25 plus seconds ahead of redbull and cruising.

The Thing is Mercs have shown thier Hand.. Ferrari haven't. And RBR still need time to be challenging them. So with a proper set-up... it must be like 2018 with hopefully Ferrari more powerful this time.

[F1NAC]

with a car that is struggling to get its nose into the corner the exit and the point of trottle application post exit becomes much delayed than the ideal point and hence there can be a differential in the straight line speed.

I know what you mean, but the speed difference at 270+ kmh would be almost negligible even if you came out of a preceding corner a bit slower. Lets not forget ferrari despite being slow was still much faster than the midfield, and those midfield cars also had much higher speed trap numbers troughout the race. We're not talking trivial numbers here, difference was quite big, and most of all, consistent.

Best case scenario it was a one off. If Bahrain is not a complete reversal of fortunes, then the season might as well be over. This year even the red bull has dropped the ball on the chassis side, so we're probably gonna get another 2016 like ferrari/RB battle with merc far ahead.

The Thing is Mercs have shown thier Hand.. Ferrari haven't. And RBR still need time to be challenging them. So with a proper set-up... it must be like 2018 with hopefully Ferrari more powerful this time.

ye but last year Ferrari brought new floor in Bahrain that also helped them. If one car is capable of going under 2 tenths off pole it will be improvement. Otherwise as Juzh said, it could be 2016 all over again.


Still I'm puzzled by Ferrari strategy. During testing car basically remained the same. In first race also. Nothing has been said about Bahrain, it's worrying a bit.

[Mr.G]

I read that they already found out what was the issue in Australia. Any confirmation about that?

source - link

[LM10]

I read that they already found out what was the issue in Australia. Any confirmation about that?

source - link

I don't think you'll get any confirmation on that. But it was Leo Turrini, the well known Ferrari insider (even considered the unofficial voice of the team) who wrote in his blog that Ferrari seem to have understood what the problems were and that there is no panic going on. He doesn't tell what the problems were, just that they have been understood now.

Let's see what follows and what the performance will look like.

[dfegan358]

What does that link article claim was the issues found by Ferrari?