autogyro's Transmission Concept

[autogyro]

The ultimate of this, is a steam traction engine driving a crank that is also the drive axle.
Does it get more efficient?
Oh sorry relative to the concept of no gearbox, I nearly forgot!

[xxChrisxx]

This is boring.

This thread is now about kittens.

[flynfrog]

The ultimate of this, is a steam traction engine driving a crank that is also the drive axle.
Does it get more efficient?
Oh sorry relative to the concept of no gearbox, I nearly forgot!

depends on your boiler ef..........ooooh kitties.

[F1_eng]

What on earth is going on?

It was an awful thread to start with but now.....

Im afraid that the person wishing to patent his gearbox idea probably won't get very far in the end.
It's one this to have an idea but the task then is to engineer it to work.

I could say we will have a gearbox with 3 gear, use jelly for the shafts and chocolate for gears, it will be great. That is an idea! There's no engineering involved up to that stage, its then we have to start designing and evaluating each component and change aspects of the original design. Then we build and test prototypes then go back to the design phase, make changes then test again.

Extremely latteral thinkers rarely end up in positions of great responsibility. There has to be a balance, certainly for people I enjoy employing and working with.

I disagree with autogyro saying that formula 1 is not the pinacle, purley because of using layshaft gearboxes. Thousands of engineers have developed it so far, therefore you need to be better than the people developing it previous to make any gains. Perhaps you moved on to a different concept because you don't have the capacity to delve deep enough in to the engineering of an F1 gearbox, we are doing things at such an in-depth scale. Engineering is becoming Science in what we do.

I don't know why I post on this thread.

[xxChrisxx]

What on earth is going on?

It was an awful thread to start with but now.....

Why do you think I hijacked it with kitties?

Im afraid that the person wishing to patent his gearbox idea probably won't get very far in the end.
It's one this to have an idea but the task then is to engineer it to work.

Minaccio's idea isn't without it's engineering problems (then again what is), that may even prove to kill off the idea. The concept is good though and fairly clever, and at least he outlined his idea in a reasonable and logical manner. He also acknoledged that for the moment it IS just an idea, but one that has potential.

He want like gyro who lays the bullshit on nice and thick.

Extremely latteral thinkers rarely end up in positions of great responsibility. There has to be a balance, certainly for people I enjoy employing and working with.

I 100% agree, I am a rather poor innovator but my skillset is that I am grounded and analytical with my approch to design. On my own, designs work, but with no flair.

Teaming someone like myself with someone who has innovative ideas (basically a well balanced team), it makes a deadly comination.

I disagree with autogyro saying that formula 1 is not the pinacle

You would say that, being in F1!! heh.

I agree though, modern engineering is a science. It's the most reliable method of attainnig performence.

[Ciro Pabón]

Science and engineering are different.

Once all the girls in a college were at one side of the football field and all the boys in the college were at the other side. A matematician, a physicist and an engineer had to solve to following question:

"If every 10 seconds, girls and boys walk half of the distance that currently separates them, when will they come together?"

The mathematician answered instantly: "Never!"

"Well done!", said the questioner. "A true, quick and exact answer. Are you a mathematician?"

The physicist pondered the question for a while. Then he said: "Well, they will encounter in an infinite time."

"Better yet!", said the questioner. "A correct answer that involves singularities and expands the obvious. Are you a physicist?"

The engineer took out his worn calculator and scribbled furiously for a while in a notebook. Finally, he said:

"Well, according to my back of the envelope calculations, in 3 minutes and 24 seconds, they will be separated by 2 inches... and that distance is short enough for any conceivable purpose." (purpose which involves pussies or kittens somehow, of course, to be on thread).

The questioner said: "Well, an answer for the real world that has a bad joke included. Are you Ciro?"

[autogyro]

Hhahaha
Loved that Ciro

Back to the thread.

I do know a little about layshaft gearboxes in F1.
In 1989 it was I,me that is, that went both to Ferrari at Marenello and Estoril to watch Mansel and talk to Ferrari engineers on the subject of semi auto and auto layshaft gearboxes.
I had designed built and raced the core of those ideas in 1979.

I have CA's with Toleman, Benneton, Williams and Ferrari to prove it ol son.

[xxChrisxx]

Hhahaha
Loved that Ciro

Back to the thread.

I do know a little about layshaft gearboxes in F1.
In 1989 it was I,me that is, that went both to Ferrari at Marenello and Estoril to watch Mansel and talk to Ferrari engineers on the subject of semi auto and auto layshaft gearboxes.
I had designed built and raced the core of those ideas in 1979.

I have CA's with Toleman, Benneton, Williams and Ferrari to prove it ol son.

I think you'll find this thread is about kittens.

[Richard]

I have CA's with Toleman, Benneton, Williams and Ferrari to prove it ol son.

I signed a confidentiality agreement on behalf of my company a few years ago when we met a chap who we thought might be interesting. We did as a form of flattery. He didn't tell us much that we didn't already know, and we couldn't see how could benefit our organisation. We've not seen him since. Point being that existence of a CA doesn't have mean that the conversation had substance.

ps - what has the timing of the USA into WW2 got to do with a chap making an electric slot car? Is there some causal link that I'm missing???? Was Roosevelt such an ardent slot car fan that he conspired to enter WW2 in order to protect the invention? Or is this an obtuse invocation of Godwin's Law?

[Richard]

I have found out the method for glueing toast to cats. Can't tell you how, but I will mention it at every opportunity.

Brilliant

Especially the infinite power from Schrödinger's cat in a box.... hmmm .... I wonder if it would work in a 110mm cube... with a single shaft to the tail and "gears" consisting of differing amounts of butter adjusted with a magnetic control unit outside the box.

[xxChrisxx]

Especially the infinite power from Schrödinger's cat in a box.... hmmm .... I wonder if it would work in a 110mm cube... with a single shaft to the tail and "gears" consisting of differing amounts of butter adjusted with a magnetic control unit outside the box.

You've got to be very careful, my research into this area involved throwing cats out of a window from great heights.

I can conclude the law needs revision, an overwhelimg amount of butter on the toast or the toast buttered on the wrong side will upset the natural balance of the system, leading to a collape of the catgravity field, cauing the cat to plummet to earth.

To maintain rotational motion, I suggest attaching a kipper to the cats tail to encourage rotation when it gets hungry.

[Ciro Pabón]

Well, kitten research is very advanced down here and it involves much more than simple toast/cat paradoxes. For example, I had a kitten that drank 3 bowls of water in 3 minutes. That was a new lap record.

Now, once we had a Toro Rosso in an exhibition at a mall. They put ten kittens on top of. One of them jumped out of the car. How many were left on top of the STR? None: they were copycats.

I swear this is true: Ross Brawn arrived to Brawn's garage one day. He was carrying a kitten under each arm. A mechanic said to him: "Good morning, Mr. Brawn. Nice kittens!". Brawn answered: "Well, these are no ordinary kittens. These are fine persian cats with a long pedigree. I got this one for Rubens and this one for Jenson!". The mechanic answered: "Good trade, Mr. Brawn."

Finally, (stop me if you've already heard it) once there was a guy selling kittens outside Silverstone, right before the GP. The guy was yelling: "Hamilton fan kittens! These kittens are Hamilton fans!". Lewis walked by and smiled at the guy's words. On his way out of the race, Lewis happened to pass by the same guy. He was yelling: "Jenson Button fan kittens! These kittens are Button fans!". Lewis, surprised, went to talk with the guy and asked: "Hey, what happened? Two hours ago you were saying those kittens were Hamilton fans!". The guy answered: "Well, they just opened their eyes."

[flynfrog]

Well, kitten research is very advanced down here and it involves much more than simple toast/cat paradoxes. For example, I had a kitten that drank 3 bowls of water in 3 minutes. That was a new lap record.

Now, once we had a Toro Rosso in an exhibition at a mall. They put ten kittens on top of. One of them jumped out of the car. How many were left on top of the STR? None: they were copycats.

I swear this is true: Ross Brawn arrived to Brawn's garage one day. He was carrying a kitten under each arm. A mechanic said to him: "Good morning, Mr. Brawn. Nice kittens!". Brawn answered: "Well, these are no ordinary kittens. These are fine persian cats with a long pedigree. I got this one for Rubens and this one for Jenson!". The mechanic answered: "Good trade, Mr. Brawn."

Finally, (stop me if you've already heard it) once there was a guy selling kittens outside Silverstone, right before the GP. The guy was yelling: "Hamilton fan kittens! These kittens are Hamilton fans!". Lewis walked by and smiled at the guy's words. On his way out of the race, Lewis happened to pass by the same guy. He was yelling: "Jenson Button fan kittens! These kittens are Button fans!". Lewis, surprised, went to talk with the guy and asked: "Hey, what happened? Two hours ago you were saying those kittens were Hamilton fans!". The guy answered: "Well, they just opened their eyes."

The Brawn one did me in.

[bazanaius]

Chris - I can't stop staring at that kitten picture.

My favourite mis-application of the 'buttered cat turbine' is :

"If you glue the toast's unbuttered side to the cat's feet, it will send the cat hundreds of feet into the air where it will turn around very quickly and ram into the ground incredibly hard and fast. Useful for digging if launched from a calculated starting point"

[xpensive]

First friend is sitting and whiling away the time. Second friend walks by carrying a cat.

First friend calls out, lazily: "Where are you going?"

Second friend answers, lazily: "To the river. To wash the cat."

First friend observes: "It is very cold today. The cat will die."

Second friend replies: "The cat will not die."

A little later Second friend returns, without the cat.

First friend asks: "Where's the cat?"

Second friend mopes: "It's dead."

First friend can't help it: "I told you that would happen. It is very cold today."

Second friend, miserably: "It wasn't the cold."

First friend: "Then what was it?"

With much distress, Second friend holds up his fists and demonstrates: "It happened when I was wringing it dry!"