Silly Season 2012/2013

[raymondu999]

You realise "final nail in the coffin" means that the end is a sure thing, right? As opposed to a definite decision being made. lol.

What? The phrase means to 'finalize' something.

Errm... no. It means to kill something, because you're nailing it into its coffin to be buried.

[zyphro]

You realise "final nail in the coffin" means that the end is a sure thing, right? As opposed to a definite decision being made. lol.

What? The phrase means to 'finalize' something.

Errm... no. It means to kill something, because you're nailing it into its coffin to be buried.

Not really, you're thinking about it the wrong way (the phrase is not to be taken in a literal sense ).

[tathan]

No it really is.

It means "to finally kill something beyond hope of a Walking Dead resurrection".

[raymondu999]

Yep. What tathan said.

Anyways back to the Silly Season. I'm still undecided as to who would leave Merc should Hamilton join the team.

[ArchAngel]

...I'm still undecided as to who would leave Merc should Hamilton join the team.

I vote Nick Fry.

[tathan]

Anyways back to the Silly Season. I'm still undecided as to who would leave Merc should Hamilton join the team.

It's difficult because you can only judge how quick Rosberg is by how fast Schumacher is NOW, which is a percentage between zero and 100 lol... He might be almost as quick as ever and Rosberg is also very fast and the Merc just isn't very good. Or Schuey might be Badoer quick and Rosberg is also hopeless. Whatever, it would be very interesting to see a known very fast driver as a yardstick against either of them.

If Schumacher does go, and assuming the 1 year Ferrari thing isn't feasible, I'd expect to see him as some sort of 'brand ambassador' / team manager so they wouldn't be seen to be getting rid of him.

[ElleMarie]

I'm still undecided as to who would leave Merc should Hamilton join the team.

if Schumacher do retires: that's how they ll make space in Merc, but if he doesnt i don't really believe that the lineup of Merc will change for 2013 season

[marcush.]

your views are blurred -what is a known quantity?-fact is there is not much time between the top 8 or even 9 teams .The balance moves arounf from team to team ,intra team,over the weekend ,over race distance.
So one can safely assume both schumacher and Rosberg are capable and quick drivers .
Next on the agenda : what about racecraft and ability to unfold a good race weekend after weekend and make it stick when things count.
Obviously Mr.Schumacher has had really only one OFF race this season yet-Hungary where he really had a partial brainfade or what have you.
Turn around anf look elsewhere and only Alonso is perfoming without flaw -thats how I see it.
Mercedes could not hope for better drivers -they got 2 good ones .

[Morteza]

your views are blurred -what is a known quantity?-fact is there is not much time between the top 8 or even 9 teams .The balance moves arounf from team to team ,intra team,over the weekend ,over race distance.
So one can safely assume both schumacher and Rosberg are capable and quick drivers .
Next on the agenda : what about racecraft and ability to unfold a good race weekend after weekend and make it stick when things count.
Obviously Mr.Schumacher has had really only one OFF race this season yet-Hungary where he really had a partial brainfade or what have you.
Turn around anf look elsewhere and only Alonso is perfoming without flaw -thats how I see it.
Mercedes could not hope for better drivers -they got 2 good ones .

Exactly, Marcus. I don't think anyone could extract more Mercedes F1 cars. The car is what letting down the drivers. When it was capable, both drivers have shown what they're made of.

[Paul]

I vote Nick Fry.

History tells us he will be the last man out, turning off the lights in the building.

[snoop1050]

7 Million is probably peanuts compared to what he brings to the table.

theres an old interview with dieter zetsche where he says even if you pay schumacher 10 million hes still bringing atleast 20 million into the team

[zyphro]

Exactly, Marcus. I don't think anyone could extract more Mercedes F1 cars. The car is what letting down the drivers. When it was capable, both drivers have shown what they're made of.

Indeed (China+Monaco).

[Nando]

I have just been reading that Di Montezemolo has said Perez needs more experience to join Ferrari, and Di Montezemolo would like Vettel in his car.

The question is though, do you really want to leave a designer like Newey?

You can say what you want about him but his track record does not lie.
Sure he´s had ups and downs in terms of success but on the other hand he´s got it in black and white that he can design extremely dominant F1 cars regardless of the times.

Even if Ferrari now has started to get the hang of things it does seem to me that the only way to kill Newey is by enforcing regulations that takes away his strongest points with his car. Like the super-advanced Williams and the Red Bull.

Had OTBD and the old exhausts still been legal we would probably have seen Vettel go for another title again.

[raymondu999]

Had OTBD and the old exhausts still been legal we would probably have seen Vettel go for another title again.

You mean romp to?

IMO Newey sometimes can get too fixated on one part, and when that part gets outlawed, he takes quite a while to recover.

[Nando]

IMO Newey sometimes can get too fixated on one part, and when that part gets outlawed, he takes quite a while to recover.

True, he does seem to have a tiny bit of panic this year but he still managed to get in 4 titles in 2 years.
To me it just feels like that if Murray - Byrne - Newey was in F1, you just stick with one of them through the good times and the bad times because you know, eventually it will click and you can enjoy driving some of the most remarkable cars ever created in F1.

I don´t know though, maybe Ferrari is the right way, but then you have Alonso. If you beat him, great, if you don´t well that lowered your stock pretty heavily.