2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:10

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -09-26.pdf

The important wording that you need to look for, is when a driver becomes 'Classified'. As I said, given all drivers completed sprint qualifying, they are all classified, and the only logical reason would be to use the most competitive session to determine the grid; before any grid penalties.
Great analysis folks, well done, everyone missed the full definition of classified and unclassified driver =D>
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:10

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -09-26.pdf

The important wording that you need to look for, is when a driver becomes 'Classified'. As I said, given all drivers completed sprint qualifying, they are all classified, and the only logical reason would be to use the most competitive session to determine the grid; before any grid penalties.
I think you have to consider that qualifying and spring qualifying are completely separate qualifying sessions and being "classified" in one does not mean you are classified in the other. For example if multiple drivers fail to set a lap in Q1 I don't think they would use their SQ times.

This is clear if you read the line where they write who is considered unclassified, and for them it is a driver that meets that criteria in Q1 or SQ1 (not in both). So obviously you can be classified in SQ1 and then unclassified in Q1.

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German Sky just talked to Mayländer who said that the conditions are better than yesterday. He expects quali to start soon.

About the grip level of the new surface he said that it was surprisingly good for the SC, but it could of course be different for F1.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:29
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:10

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -09-26.pdf

The important wording that you need to look for, is when a driver becomes 'Classified'. As I said, given all drivers completed sprint qualifying, they are all classified, and the only logical reason would be to use the most competitive session to determine the grid; before any grid penalties.
I think you have to consider that qualifying and spring qualifying are completely separate qualifying sessions and being "classified" in one does not mean you are classified in the other. For example if multiple drivers fail to set a lap in Q1 I don't think they would use their SQ times.

This is clear if you read the line where they write who is considered unclassified, and for them it is a driver that meets that criteria in Q1 or SQ1 (not in both). So obviously you can be classified in SQ1 and then unclassified in Q1.
The teams views on the rules yesterday was that seemed to be either SQ the race results. I think it was leaning towards being SQ but it was open to a lot of interpretation

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Anyway quali has started so we will get a grid

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Watto wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:33

The teams views on the rules yesterday was that seemed to be either SQ the race results. I think it was leaning towards being SQ but it was open to a lot of interpretation
F1 timing at least uses FP1 times as basis - I would be surprised they wouldn't use SQ or SR results if it was a clear cut decision.

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Merc boys having a mare
Last edited by DGP123 on 03 Nov 2024, 12:41, edited 2 times in total.

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Red Flag Colapinto in the wall.

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DGP123 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:40
Merc boys having a mare
they seem to think they have all the time in the world, cool down lap after cool down lap :?

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Kids can't even drive in the rain, no practice.

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matt_b wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:41
DGP123 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:40
Merc boys having a mare
they seem to think they have all the time in the world, cool down lap after cool down lap :?
its not cooldown laps, they're running into traffic and either getting blocked or stuck behind a car spraying causing zero vis or yellow flags during their runs

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McLaren switching to bigger rear wing as expected, I'm not sure how much of setup gamble that was
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Ham out in Q1 in the wet, crazy

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Luscion wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 12:57
Ham out in Q1 in the wet, crazy
Russell penalty incoming too?

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Lando through to Q2 by the skin of his teeth in 15th.