2026 Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team

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upsidedowntoast wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 22:28
Right, they used to sell weaker engines during their 2014-2021 era and they no longer can. This means that their inherent advantage against a customer team like Mclaren is much narrower than in years past.
Yes. Well, that was what we saw the last two years, right?
As mentioned by another poster here...I also think it will be P1 to P4 in Oz for Merc and McLaren. The issue is still, that the McLaren looked like last year on the onboards...just perfect drivability. If this is on speed like last year, then they are again super strong.
To me it looks like Papaya rules is the only thing that would prevent a Russel WDC... :mrgreen: :?

upsidedowntoast wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 22:28
- Playing around with setups is one thing but they've already lost close to a day and a half due to various issues.
I think this is normal. If I remember it correctly McLaren also had a leak that cost them time? A bad setup discission can also cost you half a day at this stage, but we would not see it...
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12 Feb 2026, 22:41
basti313 wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 18:02
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 22:26
Won't work. The FIA will benchmark the PU's on a dyno.
And a dyno is free of "modes"?
No, but once the engine is benchmarked you can't change modes without it being discovered by the FIA. Whatever you choose as your benchmark power level when your engine is homologated you will be forced to run the entire year (unless you qualify for ADUO). This should disincentivise major engine sandbagging because it is a massive gamble to lock in a lower power setting for the full year.

I don't know that the FIA does it this way, but they should.
No, this is not the way it is. They can change the maps from race to race. They just need to keep one map over all engines after FP3. This is Article C5.23 — Single ICE Mode.
You are partially correct, some parts like torque demand are frozen in homologation. But the part which would translate fuel into power in easy words is not.
So they can use FP1 and FP2 easily to precisely adjust their sandbags every race, just like 2014. It is just Williams that gets screwed by this more than in the past...
upsidedowntoast wrote:
13 Feb 2026, 04:19
Maybe Max is being straightforward here, or maybe he's just reverse sandbagging after Toto talked up RB yesterday.
Hmm....did Max ever take place in nonsense games? I mean if someone else from the RedBull garage like in 2023 tells us how difficult every race weekend is...but Max? I do not remember him playing these games.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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McLaren an Mercedes allegedly working together to try catch up in the deployment area

https://x.com/motorsportivehq/status/20 ... 02125?s=46

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That Russell complaint is about turbo lag, even without the electrical system the lag would still be there. MGU-H spoiled them.

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Lasssept wrote:
13 Feb 2026, 15:09
"Please, please, we are the underdogs, believe me"
game has started even before 1st race. Nice.

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does anyone know what the context for those 1:33 laps were for george and kimi? I'm assuming those were some quali sims. I was reading over in the main thread that their full race sims were less impressive than Charles' yesterday (staying in 1:38-1:41 most of the time with rather high tyre degradation especially on softs)

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upsidedowntoast wrote:
13 Feb 2026, 20:12
does anyone know what the context for those 1:33 laps were for george and kimi? I'm assuming those were some quali sims. I was reading over in the main thread that their full race sims were less impressive than Charles' yesterday (staying in 1:38-1:41 most of the time with rather high tyre degradation especially on softs)
Seems like everyone but McLaren have problems with degradation. The more things change...

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From Andrew Benson at the BBC:

“But the quickest race simulation of the week was done by Mercedes' Kimi Antonelli, who had the edge on pace over Lewis Hamilton's Ferrari when running at the same time on Friday.

Hamilton was matching the pace set by team-mate Charles Leclerc the day before, which was a chunk quicker than Norris was managing at the same time.”

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Lapcount

Russell: 188
Antonelli: 94


I wonder if Antonelli will get extra time next week. He got screwed over badly this week. Suspension issue on Wednesday, PU change on Thursday, and then he missed half of the final session of day 3.
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