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Mercedes follows Lotus to trial DRD - Development blog

Mercedes have tested a new evolution of the passive DRS, more commonly known as drag reduction device. The team trialled it on Nico Rosberg's car early in FP1 before removing it to get on with more conventional development work. Last week, Lotus also revived its DRD and even debuted it in the race on Kimi Raikkonen's car.

Mercedes' new version clearly underwent development since the Barcelona winter test where the team last tried it. The car configuration with DRD features an additional arc-shaped inlet just behind the airbox, followed by two even smaller inlets further downstream. Both these inlets are not present on an F1W04 car without DRD, hence it looks like both of these are used to powered the drag reduction system.

As indicated, air flows through ducting to the rear of the car, either through the upward duct that helps stall the rear wing, or through the neutral duct that exits underneath the monkey seat, just above the beam wing. Both ducts are likely meeting underneath the bodywork to form a fluid switch which then forms the core of the device to make sure the rear wing isn't stalled when maximum downforce is needed.

Interesting as well are the different outlets compared to the Lotus version. While Lotus previously had the upward duct connected to its rear wing but then decided to leave a gap, Mercedes went the other way around and now has its DRD duct connected to the bottom of the rear wing. This duct also features different outlet channels to help increase the stalling effect.

The neutral duct under the monkey seat also features a few internal fins, helping to condition the flow as it is extracted by the monkey seat, acting here as a mini diffuser.

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This DRD is more related to the First Mclaren F-duct that required two inlets to work.
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The mini diffuser hasn't always had that slot allowing for air on top of the diffuser to pass through it has it?

Never mind, I did some searching and it has been that way for a while, I just didn't notice it...

Are there any other noticeable updates aside from the new front nose cone/wing pylons?
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F1T wrote:Mercedes follows Lotus to trial DRD - Development blog

Mercedes have tested a new evolution of the passive DRS, more commonly known as drag reduction device. The team trialled it on Nico Rosberg's car early in FP1 before removing it to get on with more conventional development work. Last week, Lotus also revived its DRD and even debuted it in the race on Kimi Raikkonen's car.

Mercedes' new version clearly underwent development since the Barcelona winter test where the team last tried it. The car configuration with DRD features an additional arc-shaped inlet just behind the airbox, followed by two even smaller inlets further downstream. Both these inlets are not present on an F1W04 car without DRD, hence it looks like both of these are used to powered the drag reduction system.

As indicated, air flows through ducting to the rear of the car, either through the upward duct that helps stall the rear wing, or through the neutral duct that exits underneath the monkey seat, just above the beam wing. Both ducts are likely meeting underneath the bodywork to form a fluid switch which then forms the core of the device to make sure the rear wing isn't stalled when maximum downforce is needed.

Interesting as well are the different outlets compared to the Lotus version. While Lotus previously had the upward duct connected to its rear wing but then decided to leave a gap, Mercedes went the other way around and now has its DRD duct connected to the bottom of the rear wing. This duct also features different outlet channels to help increase the stalling effect.

The neutral duct under the monkey seat also features a few internal fins, helping to condition the flow as it is extracted by the monkey seat, acting here as a mini diffuser.

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I am not sure if this interpretation is correct. In the middle of the pipes you can see a bulge, there must be the fluidic switch, and I think the upper opening is only for the switch to operate. The larger one collects the air which passes through the switch in the direction either to the wing or the beam wing.

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Yes, and probably why the smaller one is split, like the Lotus. I am guessing it helps to perform better in turns.
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sucof wrote:I am not sure if this interpretation is correct. In the middle of the pipes you can see a bulge, there must be the fluidic switch, and I think the upper opening is only for the switch to operate. The larger one collects the air which passes through the switch in the direction either to the wing or the beam wing.
I agree. The smaller one is the switch, analogous to the hole that fed the pipe that the drivers would cover/uncover in the f-duct systems.

The larger opening feeds the system and is directed to either of the tail openings depending on the flow through the smaller switching opening.
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When were those updated rear brake ducts introduced? I see the second to upper most element features a curvature which marries it to the uppermost element. Very interesting design.

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Has anyone got an autosport.com subscription so that they can read mark hughes article on the friday form guide which includes something to do with the mercs pace on the tyres? Just so you can give an idea to others on this forum of what he has concluded so far?
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I thought the larger opening behind the airbox was just for secondary oil cooling etc?

I'm sure the Ferrari has/had something similar?

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theformula wrote:Has anyone got an autosport.com subscription so that they can read mark hughes article on the friday form guide which includes something to do with the mercs pace on the tyres? Just so you can give an idea to others on this forum of what he has concluded so far?

Basically that the belief in the paddock was that Merc may have been running heavy fuel in FP2 and were as fast, or faster than, Vettel in the red bull on long runs if that was the case.

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krisfx wrote:I thought the larger opening behind the airbox was just for secondary oil cooling etc?

I'm sure the Ferrari has/had something similar?
SkyItaly's commentator was in the Ferrari box asking if massa's car was ok or had problems too (FP1), when the cameraman focused on alonso's one and the second opening is for cooling too, i think gearbox at least

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diego.liv wrote:
krisfx wrote:I thought the larger opening behind the airbox was just for secondary oil cooling etc?

I'm sure the Ferrari has/had something similar?
SkyItaly's commentator was in the Ferrari box asking if massa's car was ok or had problems too (FP1), when the cameraman focused on alonso's one and the second opening is for cooling too, i think gearbox at least
On the Ferrari it feeds air to the gearbox oil cooler. It's radiator is visible from behind.

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sucof wrote:
diego.liv wrote:
krisfx wrote:I thought the larger opening behind the airbox was just for secondary oil cooling etc?

I'm sure the Ferrari has/had something similar?
SkyItaly's commentator was in the Ferrari box asking if massa's car was ok or had problems too (FP1), when the cameraman focused on alonso's one and the second opening is for cooling too, i think gearbox at least
On the Ferrari it feeds air to the gearbox oil cooler. It's radiator is visible from behind.
So is this not the same for Mercedes? I've not seen pictures under the engine cover to prove/disprove this