2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Another one of the better Fridays of this year! Still not quite right for the high speed corners. Bit concerned about the potential deg on the tyres in this one!

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P2/3 is a good quali effort, but i'm reserving excitement till we see the race pace tomorrow. Hopefully the good form from the last race will continue.

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He lost it in the final corner :lol:

He sacrifices the exit for higher minimum speed in the high speed

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He was quicker until the final corner in his banker as well

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 18:33
Another one of the better Fridays of this year! Still not quite right for the high speed corners. Bit concerned about the potential deg on the tyres in this one!
Not quite right for high speed corners? How do you explain the purple S2 that has the highest speed corners on track and Charles and Carlos starting 2nd and 3rd and Carlos was only 0.15 off, even a short lap that's still less than 0.2s in a normal length track.

Judge it however you want but the car has made pretty significant progress in a small fast track that everyone was predicting RBR ahead by miles, especially miles ahead of Ferrari.

Race is a different beast, strategy can still mess everything up or even just plain reliability, but Ferrari was also the only pair, together with Max, to only use one set of softs in Q1 to get through, in FP1 Charles set his best times on the Hards after 20 odd laps, I'm not expecting a win, not even a double podium, but I'm happy that development is working.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 18:42


He lost it in the final corner :lol:

He sacrifices the exit for higher minimum speed in the high speed
Faster in all the fast corners except last corner exit.

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Anyone has long run comparative data ? That's all that matters.

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LEC Laps on hards in FP1:
LAP 1 H/1 Stint 1.0: NaT
LAP 2 H/2 Stint 1.0: 1:9.330
LAP 3 H/3 Stint 1.0: 1:8.830
LAP 4 H/4 Stint 1.0: 1:16.750
LAP 5 H/5 Stint 1.0: 1:8.110
LAP 6 H/6 Stint 1.0: 1:27.770
LAP 7 H/7 Stint 1.0: 1:10.517
LAP 8 H/8 Stint 1.0: 1:8.555
LAP 9 H/9 Stint 1.0: 1:11.009
...
LAP 15 H/15 Stint 2.0: NaT
LAP 16 H/16 Stint 2.0: 1:9.204
LAP 17 H/17 Stint 2.0: 1:9.314
LAP 18 H/18 Stint 2.0: 1:19.087
LAP 19 H/19 Stint 3.0: 1:50.858
LAP 20 H/20 Stint 3.0: 1:9.143
LAP 21 H/21 Stint 3.0: 1:24.996
LAP 22 H/22 Stint 3.0: 1:7.584
LAP 23 H/23 Stint 3.0: 1:8.772
LAP 24 H/24 Stint 3.0: 1:27.791

SAI in FP1:
LAP 1 H/1 Stint 1.0: NaT
LAP 2 H/2 Stint 1.0: 1:9.033
LAP 3 H/3 Stint 1.0: 1:9.144
LAP 4 H/4 Stint 1.0: 1:8.473
LAP 5 H/5 Stint 1.0: 1:8.875
LAP 6 H/6 Stint 1.0: 1:16.898
LAP 7 H/7 Stint 1.0: 1:9.277
LAP 8 H/8 Stint 1.0: 1:8.922
LAP 9 H/9 Stint 1.0: 1:39.624


VER in FP1:
LAP 11 H/11 Stint 3.0: NaT
LAP 12 H/12 Stint 3.0: 1:10.938
LAP 13 H/13 Stint 3.0: 1:10.937
LAP 14 H/14 Stint 3.0: 1:10.703
LAP 15 H/15 Stint 3.0: 1:10.713
LAP 16 H/16 Stint 3.0: 1:10.649
LAP 17 H/17 Stint 3.0: 1:10.804
LAP 18 H/18 Stint 3.0: 1:10.874
LAP 19 H/19 Stint 3.0: 1:10.946
LAP 20 H/20 Stint 3.0: 1:11.686
LAP 21 H/21 Stint 3.0: 1:11.340
LAP 22 H/22 Stint 3.0: 1:16.975

HAM:
LAP 15 H/15 Stint 3.0: NaT
LAP 16 H/16 Stint 3.0: 1:9.749
LAP 17 H/17 Stint 3.0: 1:10.089
LAP 18 H/18 Stint 3.0: 1:10.746
LAP 19 H/19 Stint 3.0: 1:10.465
LAP 20 H/20 Stint 3.0: 1:10.176
LAP 21 H/21 Stint 3.0: 1:12.834
LAP 22 H/22 Stint 3.0: 1:10.402
LAP 23 H/23 Stint 3.0: 1:10.386
LAP 24 H/24 Stint 3.0: 1:10.750
LAP 25 H/25 Stint 3.0: 1:10.842
LAP 26 H/26 Stint 3.0: 1:14.939

RUS:
LAP 11 H/11 Stint 2.0: NaT
LAP 12 H/12 Stint 2.0: 1:9.703
LAP 13 H/13 Stint 2.0: 1:9.633
LAP 14 H/14 Stint 2.0: 1:9.567
LAP 15 H/15 Stint 2.0: 1:9.634
LAP 16 H/16 Stint 2.0: 1:9.682
LAP 17 H/17 Stint 2.0: 1:9.628
LAP 18 H/18 Stint 2.0: 1:9.747
LAP 19 H/19 Stint 2.0: 1:10.055
LAP 20 H/20 Stint 2.0: 1:10.335
LAP 21 H/21 Stint 2.0: 1:10.639
LAP 22 H/22 Stint 2.0: 1:19.865

LEC/SAI and VER were doing different stints of course, Ferrari seems consistent anyway LEC's fastest was on his tires lap 22. Some serious degradation on hards for RUS, decent pace from VER although just a smidge slower than HAM, probably different fuel load.

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In 2022 Q Max had up to +5kmh top speed advantage on Leclerc - with notably bigger (mid-downforce) rear wing than this year. On the contrary, Ferrari's is just slightly bigger now. Yet this year both cars are equal on top speed, with Max being roughly +3-4kmh from last year and Leclerc +10kmh on some places. Really, really good work by Ferrari.

It's great to see both drivers managed to maximise the car's performance today. Should they both be able to stay within DRS range of Max and each other after first two laps on Sunday, it wouldn't be surprising to see them both overtake him. RB DRS is stronger than Ferrari's so Max will be slower than Ferraris with DRS off on straights.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Will there be any more upgrades coming or are they done for this year ? I know Fred said all upgrades would be done before the summer break.

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If only they started the year with this car. :lol:

Oh well, good to see good results. Hoping the improvement continues.

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Genuinely think Ferrari have learnt a lot this season. Now the direction has changed it will be interesting to see what next years car eventually turns out to be. Seems the latest upgrades have made a big difference. Let’s hope it’s the same for race pace.

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It's a strong result for Ferrari, and drivers have suggested that the car is handling like the original F1-75. Ominous.
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jambuka wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 21:14
Will there be any more upgrades coming or are they done for this year ? I know Fred said all upgrades would be done before the summer break.
I assume this is the car for the season. Fred said first half of the season and the Austria upgrades were rushed forward by a few weeks and that would put them at Silverstone which tends to be where teams bring their big pre-summer break package.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 23:35
It's a strong result for Ferrari, and drivers have suggested that the car is handling like the original F1-75. Ominous.
Ferrari is finally in a good spot it seems, very good turn around, even if Red Bull still has the edge the team can now hope for something on a day where Verstappen has difficulties/is unlucky.
I also noticed that today the car was scraping the ground without getting violently bouncy, much like the Red Bull.

It also gives the team a clear targets for next year, where they can design a car free of the underpinings of the original designs, maybe a more aggressive water slide, undercut and SIS positioning.
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jambuka wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 21:14
Will there be any more upgrades coming or are they done for this year ? I know Fred said all upgrades would be done before the summer break.
I assume this is the car for the season. Fred said first half of the season and the Austria upgrades were rushed forward by a few weeks and that would put them at Silverstone which tends to be where teams bring their big pre-summer break package.
I can see maybe an extra floor, based on whatever they learn from the Red Bull images from Monaco and what they understand from the one they've debuted today, always with a mind on next season.