Mercedes GP MGP W01

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raymondu999 wrote:Discuss the races in the Spa thread and not the Merc thread please: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8781
Too much clutter about other teams and the random musings of some. It'll be impossible to follow a specific conversation there as there will be too many about different aspects of the race weekend. Ever tried having a conversation in a crowded room with everyone speaking about different things?

So if it's all the same to you and the other followers of this thread is agreeable, I'll be more than happy to continue the discussion of how the MGP W01 will fare right here as I feel it is relevant to this thread as it is directly linked to the car itself. Which is the point of this thread, if I'm not mistaken.
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thanks for the pic zgred. Now i see this, there is a bulge over the engine cover to house the springs or something, but anyway imo that just screws the aerodynamicsover there.
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Is that a new diffiuser or it is the one they used at Silverstone :?:
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Is it just me, or are they seemingly drawing on the Ferrari F10 for inspiration for their diffuser?
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wesley123 wrote:thanks for the pic zgred. Now i see this, there is a bulge over the engine cover to house the springs or something, but anyway imo that just screws the aerodynamicsover there.
maybe an indication, that they use a complete different damper/inerter/spring layout now at the rear.
If they have gone away from the rotational damper (which integrates into the rocker), they need to find/make some space for conventional dampers on top of the gearbox, therefore need to raise the engine cover in this area.
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detail W01:

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"Make the suspension adjustable and they will adjust it wrong ......
look what they can do to a carburetor in just a few moments of stupidity with a screwdriver."
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there was a bulge from the beginning but maybe it has grown a bit?
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maybe its more that color and change of enginecover splitlines

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Watching practice...what is Schumi doing with his left hand?He moves it down at the start of the straight, and then removes it. He then re-applies it at the end, for a sec or two. However, he does not do this on every straight.

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wasn´tthat the brake balance adjustment? we had that Funny video some months ago with radio scanning noise underlayed...it looked like rosberg searched for a better music programme..

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gilgen wrote:Watching practice...what is Schumi doing with his left hand?He moves it down at the start of the straight, and then removes it. He then re-applies it at the end, for a sec or two. However, he does not do this on every straight.
Perhaps Merc are working on a bistable fluidic switch whereby the driver gives a quick pulse to turn the blowing on, and a second pulse to turn it back off. There is technically no reason why this could not be achieved, but I doubt how sensible such a thing might be. Even though holding one's hand over a vent while driving at >200mph is arguably dangerous, the idea of having a stalled RW going into a fast corner is probably more frightening!
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forty-two wrote:
gilgen wrote:Watching practice...what is Schumi doing with his left hand?He moves it down at the start of the straight, and then removes it. He then re-applies it at the end, for a sec or two. However, he does not do this on every straight.
Perhaps Merc are working on a bistable fluidic switch whereby the driver gives a quick pulse to turn the blowing on, and a second pulse to turn it back off. There is technically no reason why this could not be achieved, but I doubt how sensible such a thing might be. Even though holding one's hand over a vent while driving at >200mph is arguably dangerous, the idea of having a stalled RW going into a fast corner is probably more frightening!
Yeah, could be! I do know that once a flow of air is altered, given certain dynamics, that flow can remain in the altered state, until re-set. But did you notice that Schumi had a "ooh nasty" just as he was moving his hand. So whatever he was doing, it does affect his concentration.

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The floor experienced over heating again with the last iteration of the blown diffusor in Spa. There will be changes for Monza.
Ross Brawn @ autosport wrote:There are different materials that you can use on the floor and the area that is suffering, and we didn't anticipate it getting as hot as it does. Obviously the way the exhaust gas moves around the floor it is sometimes difficult to predict. It is not perfect and there will be a revision for Monza.
The other thing is straight line speed was worse than with Force India's brand new F-duct. It is a bit embarrassing to see Merc struggle so badly with theses issues and Force India taking the cookies from them like small children. How deep the mighty have fallen.
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it´s hard to understand they have these difiiculties making the floor survive..
but there you go, they are the specialists.

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they should just go and use some tungsten in their diffusor/floor.
would help in more then one way, and solve more then one problem. :wink:
"Make the suspension adjustable and they will adjust it wrong ......
look what they can do to a carburetor in just a few moments of stupidity with a screwdriver."
- Colin Chapman

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” - Leonardo da Vinci