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jon-mullen
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Shrieker wrote:LOL that too... Why filter it though :|
Because you never know what kind of --- --- is going to come out of some of these c**ts' mouths.

Ooohhhh...I had to do the last one for you.
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I say let them do as they wish, you'll at least figure out who's what :wink:
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I've seen some "quick reply" boxes appearing on some threads. I hope this will be the new default.

Thank you !!!!! =D>

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I feel that the forum rule is not strongly enough worded in terms of posting personal attacks, abuse, provocation and general unpleasantness.

I'm aware that sometimes I react to provocations and tend to be unpleasant when my patience runs short. Perhaps it would help if the admin makes it clear that the forum is a place that is supposed to attract learned debate by people with good manners.

There is always the compromise between protecting the unpopular but constructive and penalizing the rude and abusive. I would strongly support that people with bad manners would have their butt kicked (virtually) more often.
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WhiteBlue wrote:I feel that the forum rule is not strongly enough worded in terms of posting personal attacks, abuse, provocation and general unpleasantness.

I'm aware that sometimes I react to provocations and tend to be unpleasant when my patience runs short. Perhaps it would help if the admin makes it clear that the forum is a place that is supposed to attract learned debate by people with good manners.

There is always the compromise between protecting the unpopular but constructive and penalizing the rude and abusive. I would strongly support that people with bad manners would have their butt kicked (virtually) more often.
I agree. Maybe a little more Moderator intervention to keep this a technical forum not a fanboi --- fest like it has become. Bickering has even spilled over into the car threads. I try reporting posts but it becomes tiresome and feels like its no longer worth my time.

Maybe a how too debate sticky. I will use WhiteBlue as an example. While we may disagree to the death on some subjects I feel he is respectful in his arguments and they are usually backed up with something other than his opinion stated as fact. Its really too bad when good well researched technical posts are drown out by drivel spilling out of some members.

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I think it may also be down to how the moderators are technically equipped to intervene. I would give them a number of buttons which they can use to zap the unworthy postings instead of editing them. Afterwards all you find is:

This post by "member xyz" was deleted by "moderator xyz" due to:
  • abuse of members
  • provocation
  • being condescending or patronizing
  • excessive fanboyism
  • repetitively unworthy of the debate
  • agression
  • nationalism
  • Godwin's rule
  • racism
  • unpleasantness or distaste
  • repetitive off topic posting
  • disregard of the quotation rules
  • disregard of privacy rules
  • lack of technical understanding for the issue at hand
  • the author being deliberately ill mannered
If the moderators get such a shot gun they would probably make a deeper impression on the purpetrators. :wink:
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WB, that looks like Stalin's wish-list.

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manchild wrote:WB, that looks like Stalin's wish-list.
:lol: I did not advocate to ban the perps to siberia or kill them, just give them appropriate feed back by the mods. Do you like a more belligerent atmosphere?
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It would be even better if a moderator could STAMP over those posts all those things WB mentioned :lol: All you need is a bunch of transparent GIFs.

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flynfrog wrote:I agree. Maybe a little more Moderator intervention to keep this a technical forum not a fanboi --- fest like it has become. Bickering has even spilled over into the car threads. I try reporting posts but it becomes tiresome and feels like its no longer worth my time.
I think having the Hamilton desperate?/Alonso teamplayer? threads has actually helped, it sort of serves the purpose that the Fanboy Ying-Yang thread is (I guess) supposed to serve. I mean, if we're not supposed to be talking --- in those then you might as well just go ahead and close them, I don't know what kind of technical discussion anyone would expect from threads with those titles. Just my 2c.

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jon-mullen wrote:
flynfrog wrote:I agree. Maybe a little more Moderator intervention to keep this a technical forum not a fanboi --- fest like it has become. Bickering has even spilled over into the car threads. I try reporting posts but it becomes tiresome and feels like its no longer worth my time.
I think having the Hamilton desperate?/Alonso teamplayer? threads has actually helped, it sort of serves the purpose that the Fanboy Ying-Yang thread is (I guess) supposed to serve. I mean, if we're not supposed to be talking --- in those then you might as well just go ahead and close them, I don't know what kind of technical discussion anyone would expect from threads with those titles. Just my 2c.

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I was referring more to technical threads that end up with spill over from the fanboy threads. I would merge all of the Hamilton team player ect threads into the fan boy thread. Maybe make a separate forum category for them and prune it every month.

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flynfrog wrote: Maybe make a separate forum category for them and prune it every month.
+1

Looks a bit extreme at first glance, but I reckon it would be a good thing for the site. With all due respect to everyone's opinion and their right to write it, those "contributions" are doing nothing but soiling F1T.
After the Monaco race I was excited and came to the forum to share my impressions, but as soon I reached the Monaco GP thread I realised it had (once again) become a fanboi battlefield, speaking only about Schumacher's mistake. I thought it was worthless to try and put a post about Webbo's great drive, or Kubica's... So I left, and I suspect most new vistors will do the same when they find that place. Worse, the only new members who could feel attracted by such discussions would be new trolls!

So this idea is good, because it respect Tomba's will of democratic forum (you can post your opinion/fanboi motto as much as you like), but it preserves the F1T main forum (because it's a separate forum), and it doesn't harm the site image for long (because it's deleted every month it's not going to become a giant trolling archive).

Besides, I'm sure such a system could be easier for the moderators (or at least shouldn't involve more work), because the place wouldn't need to be kept too clean, it could even consist in one only giant thread, where every crappy post finds it's place easily...

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vyselegend wrote: After the Monaco race I was excited and came to the forum to share my impressions, but as soon I reached the Monaco GP thread I realised it had (once again) become a fanboi battlefield, speaking only about Schumacher's mistake. I thought it was worthless to try and put a post about Webbo's great drive, or Kubica's... So I left...
+1

Before the race there were like 20 pages after the race when I checked the thread like 50-60 pages, so I was sure that it was the same issue like in the Malaysia thread but this time Schumacher was the subject instead of Hamilton. That wasn't worth reading nor posting...

Something like WBs idea would help to keep it "technical" :wink:

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Remove the 'Newsletter Subription' box out of the home page and into the news article page. Similar area on the right hand side.
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It would be nice to see the race posts go back to updates on the cars. Tactical moves ect instead of bickering.

Also for the love of god make links open in a new tab!!!