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Nikosar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 08:01
-wkst- wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 07:28
Good job by ALO, not very good. Admitted himself on the team radio that the Q3 lap wasn’t ideal. STR should go ASAP, clown show nowadays. Just blocking a seat for a competitive driver, that we also have a real reference for ALO.
I’am afraid also the more they manage to make the car quicker the more Stroll will struggle.

Also I heard Alonso saying that he understood the car more since Imola in terms of how to find the right set-up, and we all know Alonso, he won’t share the information with the other garage. Same story since the season with Button.

The season is long and the head to head statistics at the end will have a tremendous gap between the two.
Even if it's true ,Alonso of course share setups. But what is work.for him is may not work.for anybody else. Look at Redbull 2nd seat.

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Aston Martin team chief Andy Cowell has revealed that two-time Formula 1 champion Fernando Alonso gives him a "steamy look" when he discusses this year's car with him.

Despite being the oldest driver on the grid at 43 years old, Alonso remains committed to his future with the team and the sport. While speaking to Motorsport.com and other media ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix, Cowell discussed how he manages a driver who is closer to retirement than others.

"Every time I chat to Fernando about this year's car, he'll give me that steamy look of you're not compromising next year are you? He checks the look in my eyes," Cowell explained.

"I say 'no, no, no, it helps for next year.' I've mentioned '27 and '28, but we're determined to do our absolute best for '26. Lots of conversations this week in the factory about next year's calendar that's now come out and in the public domain.

"When you look at the three track tests, getting a completely new car, power unit, transmission, fuel, lubricant ready for track testing at the end of January. Then two more track tests and then the races through the season as well as developing a car ready for '27."

The Silverstone outfit is set to transition from being a Mercedes customer team to a works team in 2026, coinciding with a new power unit partnership with Honda.

"It's a huge challenge that all 11 teams have got for next year. Our challenge of going from customer team to works team adds to that," Cowell added.

"There's a big transmission and hydraulics and rear suspension programme going on as well as working with Honda to optimise the power unit to go with the chassis, and Adrian's [Newey] thoughts on the architecture for a 2026 race car. It's a super exciting time. It's a nice problem being busy, isn't it?"

In an interview with Sky Sports F1, Cowell also commented on whispers that Alonso had been seen in the Alpine garage on multiple occasions during the Canadian Grand Prix weekend. In response to this, the Aston Martin team principal reiterated that Alonso is under contract through next year.

"I'm happy for Fernando to wander into any garage. He knows lots of people up and down the pit lane," he commented.

"And I’m also happy with the fact that he’s contracted to us next year, and hopefully will stay with us long term as an ambassador.

"It’s great working with Fernando. It’s always good to have a competitive person that pushes, just like Nico [Rosberg] used to at Mercedes, and pushes the team on and galvanises the team."
Alonso is obviously staying and is extremely keen on domination from 26 and beyond! :D

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Quick again in qualy! We need same speed in races

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I hope already from this race we can see great race speed. Alonso seems optimistic that we can get top 3 results soon


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Alonsismo wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 03:59
zoroastar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 03:47
during practice yesterday Karun Chandhok talked about what a story it would be if Aston/ Honda built a car in 26 that was good enough for alonso to win a title at his age. man that would be some crazy sh#$. and i have to agree with him. i know its a long shot, but if it was ever gonna happen, the stars seemed to align at just the right time. after all the waiting for this guy to have a car that could do it. i hope newey and honda build another rb19 in 26 because hes deserved it since 2012.
i dont want a competitive car, i want TOTAL DOMINATION
i want every pole position, every win, every fastest lap

alonso has had the worst luck i have seen, he has been driving shitboxes and doing miracles.
he deserves to destroy every record
Amen.

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RedNEO wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 03:40
diffuser wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 01:55
Rockypeeters wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 00:01


Do you really think he lost 0.450 in Turn 10?
No, but he almost abandoned the lap after wards. He didn't do his best cause he knew he screwed up.
If everyone had perfect laps we would be p8. The car is not ready for the podium it’s still flawed. Alonso drove out of his skin to put it up there. So many factors could be the reason (tyres seemed to give up for others won similar used tyres like Antonelli said his gave up on turn 10 which I think happened to ALO) so all in all great result. I think blaming Alonso every time is getting tiring when he maximised the result. Just enjoy it

So it wasn't just me, if you go watch the onboards Alonso says it too.
You got to stop thinking this kind of stuff is "a blame". When a car is slow, you need to take more risks. In canada, it was one of the risks that didn't pay off... You keep going harder and faster into a corner, eventually...it will be too fast. If you don't, you'll just be slow. It's the nature of racing.

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Nikosar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 08:01
-wkst- wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 07:28
Good job by ALO, not very good. Admitted himself on the team radio that the Q3 lap wasn’t ideal. STR should go ASAP, clown show nowadays. Just blocking a seat for a competitive driver, that we also have a real reference for ALO.
I’am afraid also the more they manage to make the car quicker the more Stroll will struggle.

Also I heard Alonso saying that he understood the car more since Imola in terms of how to find the right set-up, and we all know Alonso, he won’t share the information with the other garage. Same story since the season with Button.

The season is long and the head to head statistics at the end will have a tremendous gap between the two.
i dont belive on that. years ago, maybe, but with Stroll i dont believe. We saw few races ago, Alonso during the race told in the radio some brakes configurations for Stroll try to improve. Alonso knows Stroll isnt a risk to him.

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Nikosar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 08:01
-wkst- wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 07:28
Good job by ALO, not very good. Admitted himself on the team radio that the Q3 lap wasn’t ideal. STR should go ASAP, clown show nowadays. Just blocking a seat for a competitive driver, that we also have a real reference for ALO.
I’am afraid also the more they manage to make the car quicker the more Stroll will struggle.

Also I heard Alonso saying that he understood the car more since Imola in terms of how to find the right set-up, and we all know Alonso, he won’t share the information with the other garage. Same story since the season with Button.

The season is long and the head to head statistics at the end will have a tremendous gap between the two.
im pretty sure that hes been coaching Lance here and there since he joined the team. i wouldnt be surprised if daddy stroll asked him to before he signed. i dont see him being able to hide all info from lance with the team dynamics the way they are. and i dont think theres much of a need to either

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Alonso smiling and making bets about top 3 before zandvoort makes me think the numbers from the wind tunnel for the next upgrades with newey tips look promising.

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FNTC wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 18:04
Alonso smiling and making bets about top 3 before zandvoort makes me think the numbers from the wind tunnel for the next upgrades with newey tips look promising.
We can only hope.

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zoroastar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 16:23
Nikosar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 08:01
-wkst- wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 07:28
Good job by ALO, not very good. Admitted himself on the team radio that the Q3 lap wasn’t ideal. STR should go ASAP, clown show nowadays. Just blocking a seat for a competitive driver, that we also have a real reference for ALO.
I’am afraid also the more they manage to make the car quicker the more Stroll will struggle.

Also I heard Alonso saying that he understood the car more since Imola in terms of how to find the right set-up, and we all know Alonso, he won’t share the information with the other garage. Same story since the season with Button.

The season is long and the head to head statistics at the end will have a tremendous gap between the two.
im pretty sure that hes been coaching Lance here and there since he joined the team. i wouldnt be surprised if daddy stroll asked him to before he signed. i dont see him being able to hide all info from lance with the team dynamics the way they are. and i dont think theres much of a need to either
Atleast that's what he says publicly....

Lance must have taken Alonso's setup for FP3 and he couldn't make it work.

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diffuser wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 18:41
zoroastar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 16:23
Nikosar wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 08:01


I’am afraid also the more they manage to make the car quicker the more Stroll will struggle.

Also I heard Alonso saying that he understood the car more since Imola in terms of how to find the right set-up, and we all know Alonso, he won’t share the information with the other garage. Same story since the season with Button.

The season is long and the head to head statistics at the end will have a tremendous gap between the two.
im pretty sure that hes been coaching Lance here and there since he joined the team. i wouldnt be surprised if daddy stroll asked him to before he signed. i dont see him being able to hide all info from lance with the team dynamics the way they are. and i dont think theres much of a need to either
Atleast that's what he says publicly....

Lance must have taken Alonso's setup for FP3 and he couldn't make it work.
yeah it seems like lance is kindof lost and unmotivated from our point of view. things may be different inside the team. it gives the appearance of somebody that has "topped out" in their abilities, and simply doesnt know how to get what alonso does out of the car. which, how many drivers actually do. itd be nice to see somebody else driving it for a couple of races at least, but as weve seen, thats not gonna happen. lawrence stroll probably figured to catch alonso on a decline in his career and lance ascending for better optics but it hasnt happened like that. such is racing though. i sometimes wonder what father and son convos are like in that department. if lance would feel comfortable telling his dad that he doesnt want to do it anymore

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FNTC wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 18:04
Alonso smiling and making bets about top 3 before zandvoort makes me think the numbers from the wind tunnel for the next upgrades with newey tips look promising.
Nah, ALO is always a bit overhyped when things go well after a longer time „in pain“, but is also overly pessimistic when things doesn’t look good. Not long ago he predicted ~p13s for the whole year.

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-wkst- wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 19:44
FNTC wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 18:04
Alonso smiling and making bets about top 3 before zandvoort makes me think the numbers from the wind tunnel for the next upgrades with newey tips look promising.
Nah, ALO is always a bit overhyped when things go well after a longer time „in pain“, but is also overly pessimistic when things doesn’t look good. Not long ago he predicted ~p13s for the whole year.
He can exagerate on the spot.

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FNTC wrote:
15 Jun 2025, 18:04
Alonso smiling and making bets about top 3 before zandvoort makes me think the numbers from the wind tunnel for the next upgrades with newey tips look promising.
When we look at Vettel's final years in Aston, he was similarly happy too, and it's nice to see Alonso continue in sport still, hope 26 car will be proper competitive and will be fighting for the wins, if not i see 26 being his last year in F1 as i don't see him switching teams like media are just spreading rumors. Let's all hope Aston will finally evolve to a winning team very soon.