2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Luscion]

Car just looks lazy on the nose.
Hamilton still tentative in the direction changes, but not bad for this kind of circuit in terms of gap to Charles.
He left too much time on table in first sector, and even the second he was on and off the brake and throttle.

Both their onboards looked really good, Lewis looked less tentative to me than previous weekends but yea Ferrari just doesnt have the one lap pace right now

[Fakepivot]

we lost a lot in s1 than s2 unlike in practice.. strange..

[SoulPancake13]

we lost a lot in s1 than s2 unlike in practice.. strange..

Not sure what you are looking at. We lose similar times in each.

[Luscion]

[ScuderiaLeo]

It's funny in a way that qualifying was such a big issue last season and at the end of the year they kept talking about improving it for 2025.

But actually the SF-25 is even less reliable in qualifying than the SF-24.

[Xyz22]

Yeah middle sector will be a nightmare like last year most likely.

How can they not fix their weakness in 1 year.

Mediocre technical team.

[Luscion]

[deadhead]

It's funny in a way that qualifying was such a big issue last season and at the end of the year they kept talking about improving it for 2025.

But actually the SF-25 is even less reliable in qualifying than the SF-24.

talking about it and having the ability to do so are obviously very different things

Now the talk is how they will keep improving it well into the summer, so let's see if the gap on these quali laps can get bellow 3 tenths by race 13 or whatever

[Emag]

It's a little bit depressing to see drivers of such caliber put in the work behind the wheel, but the car limiting them to this extent.



Ferrari just had nothing here really, except for a minor straight-line advantage which looks down to deployment strategy more than anything else. No section of the track where Charles is making any dent to Kimi's advantage.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Vasseur:

The gap is too big for pole. Antonelli is too far away, but we are not far from Verstappen and 2-3 drivers in front of us. We struggled to put everything together and we are still making mistakes, we struggle with balance and we are paying the price, because as soon as we make small mistakes, we overheat the tires so much and we lose everything.

The first sector is good and in the last sector we don't lose more than a tenth. We lose a little more in the low-speed corners, we have a problem with the car at the beginning of this sequence and we carry it throughout the section, losing a few tenths in total.

Leclerc was not happy with the position in the pit lane? Nothing happened, we all went out at the same time and there was confusion. Tomorrow could be a different story. Track temperature will be one of the keys and the issue of tire degradation will also come into play.

I'm usually one to give him the benefit of doubt, but I found these statements very lacking.

"Not far" from the top three is just not good enough. Leclerc put in an amazing lap while some of the drivers above didn't. Doing a very good lap while the others didn't should net higher than a P6 for a "top team".

It's also not a good look to have the drivers make specific complaints but then he says "nothing happened" and it was just "confusion".

[Luscion]

Vasseur:

The gap is too big for pole. Antonelli is too far away, but we are not far from Verstappen and 2-3 drivers in front of us. We struggled to put everything together and we are still making mistakes, we struggle with balance and we are paying the price, because as soon as we make small mistakes, we overheat the tires so much and we lose everything.

The first sector is good and in the last sector we don't lose more than a tenth. We lose a little more in the low-speed corners, we have a problem with the car at the beginning of this sequence and we carry it throughout the section, losing a few tenths in total.

Leclerc was not happy with the position in the pit lane? Nothing happened, we all went out at the same time and there was confusion. Tomorrow could be a different story. Track temperature will be one of the keys and the issue of tire degradation will also come into play.

I'm usually one to give him the benefit of doubt, but I found these statements very lacking.

"Not far" from the top three is just not good enough. Leclerc put in an amazing lap while some of the drivers above didn't. Doing a very good lap while the others didn't should net higher than a P6 for a "top team".

It's also not a good look to have the drivers make specific complaints but then he says "nothing happened" and it was just "confusion".

Yea wringing the neck of the car and only getting onto the 3rd and 4th row isnt good, also when he says "we're still making mistakes" i wonder if he is talking about the drivers or the team, cause watching the onboards there wasnt really more the drivers could do and neither made mistakes in their Q3 run.

[ringo]

Antonelli made mistakes from the traces and was on pole. I think his tyres was in the best window.
Ferrari improved over sf24 but just not enough relative to the other cars.

[dialtone]

The car is 0.1s from 4th. To think that Max messed up his lap or something like that while LEC was perfect isn’t realistic. It’s close enough that any change in weather can make the car worthy of 3rd or 4th place.

Complaining each race when the car without updates is exactly where it was the race before seems pointless, this is where we are at… asking Vasseur to just go out there each weekend to say that they suck is pointless as well.

We can move on and just discuss their performance for where they are at.

[ringo]

Max did go quicker on a less optimal tyre that had 2 more laps on it?
So there is more margin than 1 tenth.
Yes complaining each week is pointless when the car is virtually the same as the previous race.
The performance is encouraging. I was expecting worse. The team is forced to optimize the setup of what they have now.

[ScuderiaLeo]

That doesn't change the fact Leclerc said very clearly his issues with traffic which can be verified by Bozzi's radios to him and his track position. And then Vasseur calls it nothing. If Vasseur thinks it's a misunderstanding he should say that, but brushing it off completely makes it seem like he is just avoiding discussing it even though the driver has already brought it up. And again, I don't think that reflects well on the team.

In my opinion it's also fair to have expected more from today. They did very well in the last sprint. Yes temperatures and the track are different, but it's reasonable to assume considering some of their issues can be mitigated by the shorter sprint format that they'd do better here than they did in the qualifying of the triple header. But it is the same story, and this shows other teams have learned a lot since China while Ferrari hasn't.