2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Re: 2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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-wkst- wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 17:01
diffuser wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 14:55
-wkst- wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 07:31


And you have access to the contract, which says at which point an in-season upgrade must be available for AMR/Williams? I guess its a bit more complicated than "just buy and use it".

Especially in terms of integration/aero philosophy. Mercedes develops their car in this direction for months naturally. AMR or Williams have to adapt (and were not always happy in the past...).
I thought the "TRANSFERABLE COMPONENTS (TRC)" fell under the same regs as the PU. In that all upgrades must made available. I couldn't find it in the regs for TRCs. Merc has in the past but that doesn't guarantee they will this time.
The rules of TRC can bee seen in the fia regulations, but - different to the PU - no such rule exists.

It's up to the 2 parties what they agree to.
Not sure why you felt the need to repeat what I said.

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Re: 2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 09:43
-wkst- wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 07:31
diffuser wrote:
25 Jun 2025, 04:21


It's for sale, AMF1 just has to buy it.
And you have access to the contract, which says at which point an in-season upgrade must be available for AMR/Williams? I guess its a bit more complicated than "just buy and use it".

Especially in terms of integration/aero philosophy. Mercedes develops their car in this direction for months naturally. AMR or Williams have to adapt (and were not always happy in the past...).
They get all information from the Mercedes, so they already have those information, test results approximately months ago. As we see they still use the same "---" rear gearbox, suspension ,but they definitely found something what brings them in the right direction and I can tell you is nothing to do with Mercedes parts .
Afraid not. From the 2025 Technical regulations:
17.5.8 In respect of the conditions at Article 17.3.4, any information on TRC passed on or received
by a Competitor or any consultancy or any other kind of services involving a Competitor in
relation to TRC shall be strictly limited to the designs or drawings necessary for the
integration of the TRC into the design of the car and/or the data of the TRC necessary for the
correct operation of the TRC on the car. For the avoidance of doubt, the following passage of
information is strictly prohibited:
a. Information specific to a particular circuit or race (e.g. suspension setup information)
b. Software or methodology for the optimisation of the performance of a TRC (e.g.simulation software)