The Lotus philosophy in full bloom - embraced by Italian marques?
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Actually that was the design direction of the original Dino. What goes around comes around again. If this is true ... soon I'll be ... back in demand among the ladies?
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About the Lotus philosophy embraced by Italian marques, it is a great combinationCarlos wrote:Let me try to understand ... after all these years Ferrari is embracing the ideals of Colin Chapman - smaller, lighter more agile cars with superior power to weight ratio's, resonable power and overall efficiency?
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Actually that was the design direction of the original Dino. What goes around comes around again.
In what way?West wrote:They need cars like the F40 again.
Simplicity in overall design. 500 lbs is a lot, and the F430's exterior is overdone.mx_tifosi wrote:In what way?West wrote:They need cars like the F40 again.
It's style? Design? Powertrain (2.9L TT V8 )? Or low weight (1100kg)?
Or simply the overall design philosophy?
This version of the F430 only has 250 kg's more than the F40, so it's not that far off in a number of ways. Plus, the F40 only has 471 hp, compared to the F430 Scuderia's 510..
Very different generations of design and style though.
500 lbs are a lot. But I guess they can't take that much more off. Even with all that aluminum and carbonfibre. I once heard that the F430 weight could have been lower, but due to some legal issues regarding crash impact ratings the wieght had to be raised to what it is now.West wrote:Simplicity in overall design. 500 lbs is a lot, and the F430's exterior is overdone.mx_tifosi wrote:In what way?West wrote:They need cars like the F40 again.
It's style? Design? Powertrain (2.9L TT V8 )? Or low weight (1100kg)?
Or simply the overall design philosophy?
This version of the F430 only has 250 kg's more than the F40, so it's not that far off in a number of ways. Plus, the F40 only has 471 hp, compared to the F430 Scuderia's 510..
Very different generations of design and style though.
Regardless of the lap times, I would take the 997 GT2... to me it has the most understated bodywork... and I would like to see what an RR driveline feels like. In all honesty, only a select few who buy those cars will actually have the skill to get those lap times.mx_tifosi wrote:I wonder how it will do up against Lamborghini's leightweight version, the Gallardo Superleggera. The Gallardo SL has beaten the "normal" F430's lap time of the Nurburgring’s Nordschleife by nine seconds. I wonder if the F430 Scuderia will be able to recover Ferrari's position against Lamborghini at this famous circuit.
Lap Times
Gallardo Superleggera- 7:46
F430- 7:55
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supe ... ng-in-746/
Even more absurd is Porsche's "supposed" lap time by their 997 GT2, which is 7:32! I believe only has Porsche has confirmed this such time.
Maybe not, but everyone compares them. They are both the entry level models for each respective manufacturer. They share similiar output levels and weight. Although Lamborghini prefers the V10 powerplant along with the untraditional AWD drivetrain, and Ferrari with their amazing V8 and the very traditional RWD.GTO wrote:The Gallardo S & 430 S are not equal to compare. Gallardo has 5L-V10 all-wheel drive vs. 4.3L-V8 rear wheel drive for 430 S.
maybe my last post in turboch vs. superch makes you change ideamx_tifosi wrote:The only idea I dont agree with is the smaller displacement turbocharged engines. It is not that I have anything against them, but I don't prefer them (personal reasons I guess).
Increased power to weight ratios in sports cars is never a bad thing.