2009 Engine Freeze Relaxation. How will it work?

[ISLAMATRON]

donskar, you and the people who think like you are the reason the world is in its current financial & environmental crises.

F1 is the world's ultimate R&D arena, does it not make sense to use towards improving fuel effiency in road cars? No the F1 cars do not use alot of fuel over the course of a weekend or even a season for that matter, but they could use alot less and maintain current performance levels, and that exact technology is what is needed throughout the auto industry today. And that is why all the F1 manufacturers are excited about KERS and its future implications.

I'll refrain from responding except to say that I learned as a college professor that there is no force strong enough to overcome ignorance. You know zero about me; therefore your opinion of me has equal weight - zero.

I phrased that in the completely wrong way, and for that I apologize, sincerely. What I meant to convey was, Your line of reasoning, as expressed in regards to the engine freeze, in this thread, if expanded upon in a all emcompassing fashion, is the same line of reasoning that has led to the current global economic & environmental crises. The idea that F1 is a totally seperate & detached entity from the rest of the world and its small energy usages and financial excesses dont effect anybody other than those related to it. I did not mean it as a personal attack specifically aimed at you, because there are millions who think along similar lines.

Again I apologize.

[Conceptual]

donskar, you and the people who think like you are the reason the world is in its current financial & environmental crises.

F1 is the world's ultimate R&D arena, does it not make sense to use towards improving fuel effiency in road cars? No the F1 cars do not use alot of fuel over the course of a weekend or even a season for that matter, but they could use alot less and maintain current performance levels, and that exact technology is what is needed throughout the auto industry today. And that is why all the F1 manufacturers are excited about KERS and its future implications.

I'll refrain from responding except to say that I learned as a college professor that there is no force strong enough to overcome ignorance. You know zero about me; therefore your opinion of me has equal weight - zero.

I phrased that in the completely wrong way, and for that I apologize, sincerely. What I meant to convey was, Your line of reasoning, as expressed in regards to the engine freeze, in this thread, if expanded upon in a all emcompassing fashion, is the same line of reasoning that has led to the current global economic & environmental crises. The idea that F1 is a totally seperate & detached entity from the rest of the world and its small energy usages and financial excesses dont effect anybody other than those related to it. I did not mean it as a personal attack specifically aimed at you, because there are millions who think along similar lines.

Again I apologize.

He was comparing the overall impact as correctly being very small in comparison, not saying that it was so small that it doesnt matter.

I understand what ISLAM is getting at, but Don was stating the facts clearly, I don't see where he was saying "Who Cares?", he said it was just a small part, even if they eliminated it.

Anyways, if F1 does use its access to the top level engineering talent, enromous R&D budgets, global manufacturing entities, and global visibility to make the road cars from 2012 on be 90+% efficient, the offset will be 1000 times MORE than if they simply stopped the series.

If Mosely wants to really get the teams approval, he would make the 2010-2015 regs the uber efficiency era, and when the global auto indusrty turns the corner, they can go back to the gas guzzlers from 2016 if they want. By that time, their impact on the efficiency side will have well offset what energy excess that they will use. I don't think that there is ANY automotive engineering problem that F1 couldn't solve in 5 years.

I think they should start making monocoques that can be scaled for 2 and 4 seater road cars as well. That way, the safety of the road cars would go up proportional to its efficiency.

Just a thought.