Lotus T127 Cosworth

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It looks like it's photoshopped as there is clearly mounting for central upright (that yellow thing on the enlarged photo), but the upright is missing.

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The yellow thing that looks like a strut mount on the wing is the 15 cm wide "free" zone on the car centerline where teams commonly go to three elements on the rear wing. It looks like the Lotus also has a different section/shape through that zone, and it looks like they have no strut. Nobody gives a %&*$ what a Lotus wing strut would look like so there is no Photoshop. It just doesn't have a strut.

Having said that, I appreciate the enthusiasm and commentary everyone is providing. It makes pre-season much more interesting.

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It's probably worth remembering that Gascoyne led cars are typically very basic looking machines. But have been known (at times) to be quick.

In my eyes that's classic Photoshop, I do however doubt that there is something amazing going on there.. I'd liked to be proved wrong because at the moment it looks to me as though there is a long way to go. That is of course to be expected they've done an amazing job and I'm incredibly impressed USF1 were announced a very long time ago and they aren't on track, where as lotus picked up an additional and HAVE made it out.
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So place your bets!!! Place your bets!!! VR-01 or the Lotus? :D
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:wtf:


is it just me or the Lotus 2010 car is similar (or the same photo with livery mocked) of FW32 we saw a few days before? xact same location, xact same background, etc. :o

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raceman wrote::wtf:


is it just me or the Lotus 2010 car is similar (or the same photo with livery mocked) of FW32 we saw a few days before? xact same location, xact same background, etc. :o
They even have the same "spy shot" sticker on the pic!

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czt wrote:
raceman wrote::wtf:


is it just me or the Lotus 2010 car is similar (or the same photo with livery mocked) of FW32 we saw a few days before? xact same location, xact same background, etc. :o
They even have the same "spy shot" sticker on the pic!
Its an action you can record in Photoshop, why individually place it every time when you can click one button.

The photo is from stowe circuit, there maybe only one spot a photographer could sneek into, or its a photographer point which the teams can only used (they pretty much take their own pics and send them to autosport, theres no spy business going on)

Use your brains people, they haven't photoshopped the (dissapointing) FW32.

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ESPImperium wrote:
mx_tifosi wrote:I thought engines (gearbox,diff,etc) were designed with a particular lubricant/fuel in mind.
You are right. But with Merc going this way, this suggests to me they arnt happy with Mobil1. Maybes with Petronas, they can get them to produce a fuel for the FO108W that gives better fuel ecomomy and a a SYNTYUM lubricant that makes the engine run smoother. As this could be a key, stealth warzone for 2010 with the refuling ban.

I think that Mobil1 will stay with McLaren, Force India will use Petronas i think. Whitch means they may have, from 2010 onward have to carry the Petronas branding and Mercedes badge on their car, like what Renault and Total have with Red Bull.

Personally, i think it should be mandatory for customer teams to carry the logos of their engine supplyer on the nose and engine covers and the fuel/lube suplyer on the nose and lower sidepod area.

One thing i am not sure of yet is who is the fuel and lubricant supplyer for the Cosworth engine yet.

Sorry but is wholly and completely wrong.

The lubricant is formulated for the engines metallurgy, operting temperature range and valve gear operation.
The fuel is formulated for the rpm required, thus how fast the fuel required to burn.
Many of the teams source fuel from an independant fuel blender in the UK. i am not at liberty to say who.

lubricants are typically sourced from a sponsors R&D facility and these have little in common with what goes into your car. mostly they are 70% PAO or more with Class III blend stocks to make up the difference. additive packages are formulated specifically for an F1 engine ie, they contain VI improve and therefore their multigrade performance is less than that required in a passenger car.

engines are not designed around lubricants or fuels, its the other way round. 100% fact

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photoshop? #-o

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Nope - look at the tyres in the back ground - the Lotus is not in the same place.
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I don't think so. Rear wing end plate, nose and engine cover look different.
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Same track, photographer stood in a similar place, but the similarities end there. Definitely not photoshopped.

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asdf10101 wrote:photoshop? #-o

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The lotus looks quite boxy
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EDIT - Already posted, sorry.