2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Xyz22]

Nugnes confirms Formu1a.uno previous article on Ferrari upgrade package scheduled for Imola. He adds that Ferrari didn't "copy" the RB 20 after it was shown in Bahrain, but they started studying this new approach to sidepods inlet already last year thanks to a few engineers that moved from Milton Keynes to Maranello. This actually makes a ton of sense. If you recall, Formu1a.uno reported that Ferrari tried the RB20 style inlet but didn't see an improvement over their solution, probably due to the difference in know-how at the time.
I guess they tried to iterate the initial design and saw much better results, especially considering the overall potential for next year as well.

What do you think?

[CouncilorIrissa]

It's great to hear that the newcomers are able to contribute to car development as soon as they arrive. I only wish the team had started poaching people sooner.

[dialtone]

It's great to hear that the newcomers are able to contribute to car development as soon as they arrive. I only wish the team had started poaching people sooner.

They are always poaching. The difference is to take their feedback and do something useful with it, while Sanchez was said to not work well with others.

[FDD]

I guess they tried to iterate the initial design and saw much better results, especially considering the overall potential for next year as well.

Absolutely.
However we'll see in Imola what they realy found regarding the over/underbite inlets.

[DoctorRadio]

It's great to hear that the newcomers are able to contribute to car development as soon as they arrive. I only wish the team had started poaching people sooner.

They are always poaching. The difference is to take their feedback and do something useful with it, while Sanchez was said to not work well with others.

An anecdote, IIRC in 2018, behind closed doors, Sanchez once said that the upgraded floor didn’t work because the old one was too good.
Just saying, how much Ferrari gained from his departure.

[Vanja #66]

He adds that Ferrari didn't "copy" the RB 20 after it was shown in Bahrain, but they started studying this new approach to sidepods inlet already last year thanks to a few engineers that moved from Milton Keynes to Maranello. This actually makes a ton of sense. If you recall, Formu1a.uno reported that Ferrari tried the RB20 style inlet but didn't see an improvement over their solution, probably due to the difference in know-how at the time.
I guess they tried to iterate the initial design and saw much better results, especially considering the overall potential for next year as well.

What do you think?

It takes a while to model, run enough iterations in CFD and make some conclusions before going to WT with a novel solution. Previous info on the "first" version of inverted inlets came a while ago and also couldn't have been the latest state of development, so it was always likely they tried something over the winter. They weren't going to do a copy-paste of RB20, but they may have seen some stuff on it that made them rethink this direction and they decided to do it. Kind of like AMR22-B which came from Fallows' input.

With the latest info and taking into account who was in Maranello this winter, I'm expecting a completely new bodywork around the cockpit and engine, as well as a completely new floor all round. I wouldn't be surprised seeing some changes to cooling layout as well.

[ringo]

It seems the overbite allows for smaller cooling exits.
There can be a higher back pressure under the engine cover tolerated by the higher pressure entering the radiator inlet duct.
Aston's unique inlets makes me wonder about this hypothesis however.
But if Ferrari switch to RB style I am expecting even tighter bodywork at the rear and less vents.

[Jdn1327]

hmmm

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-news-a ... ll-rumours

Very interesting albeit just rumours for now...

[Xyz22]

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-se ... /10599645/

Nugnes reports that Sierra is no longer working for Mercedes. He will join Ferrari at the end of the year.

[Vanja #66]

hmmm

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-news-a ... ll-rumours

Very interesting albeit just rumours for now...

Maybe he considers moving to MotoGP with Ducati...

[LetHimTrough]

hmmm

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-news-a ... ll-rumours

Very interesting albeit just rumours for now...

Maybe he considers moving to MotoGP with Ducati...

I wont deny, I would love to see Neweys take on a Bike.

[ing.]

As we've seen last year, Ferrari finally had a major improvement of the chassis during the season since at least 2012. Sanchez arrived in October 2012. Not implying any direct correlation, but something clearly wasn't working as it should. He's also completely credited for Byrne's conceptual ideas for SF70H and F1-75.

Sanchez effectively wasted almost a year of development last year by sticking with his flawed concept. Seems to me he didn’t fool anyone at McL either, which would explain his almost immediate (record-setting?) departure from Woking.

About SF70H and its trend-setting SP inlet design, wasn’t this car Cardile’s first F1 as aero chief (?) having come from the GT sector of the company?

not Cardile but Resta with Sanchez under him

Cardile was head of aero, having just transferred from GT the previous year and I expect he had a hand in the novel SP inlet. Could explain his quick climb up the ranks.

[ing.]

hmmm

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-news-a ... ll-rumours

Very interesting albeit just rumours for now...

Maybe he considers moving to MotoGP with Ducati...

That’s exactly what I thought… or speccing a new bike. I would expect that if he was meeting with Ferrari, they’d do that somewhere more remote.

[ing.]

hmmm

https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-news-a ... ll-rumours

Very interesting albeit just rumours for now...

Maybe he considers moving to MotoGP with Ducati...

That’s exactly what I thought… or speccing a new bike. I would expect that if he was meeting with Ferrari, they’d do that somewhere more remote.

https://x.com/rbr_daily/status/17806124 ... C4q9cImZ_Q

[Polite]

Sanchez effectively wasted almost a year of development last year by sticking with his flawed concept. Seems to me he didn’t fool anyone at McL either, which would explain his almost immediate (record-setting?) departure from Woking.

About SF70H and its trend-setting SP inlet design, wasn’t this car Cardile’s first F1 as aero chief (?) having come from the GT sector of the company?

not Cardile but Resta with Sanchez under him

Cardile was head of aero, having just transferred from GT the previous year and I expect he had a hand in the novel SP inlet. Could explain his quick climb up the ranks.

Cardile worked on the actual car. Resta designed the base for the new regs of 2017 then moved to Sauber (2016 in ferrari then 2017 in sauber.).. and those inlet was an idea of Sanchez, Turrini stated