[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[the EDGE]

Rumors about James Key in Ferrari
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... n=widget-1

Find this one hard to believe considering he’s only just been able to do his first car at MaC

I’m not even sure that article constitutes a rumour, more like just a random name thrown into a poorly written boring article to try to stop people regretting they read it. It didn’t work, I still regretted reading the article but it did remind me why I stay clear of any auto sport family companies

[ispano6]

My immediate thought was WTF??? but after a few seconds, I thought, hang on, who else is there ?? Rosberg? Sutil? Alonso, Button. I do not see any of those doing it.

Ant Davidson? He's got the simulator time and, in the simulator, he tries to emulate the driving style of whichever driver he is simming for so it shouldn't be a big step into the car.

The issue will be the Super licence. I wonder how easy it would be to keep one 'ticking over'?

Yeh, I think both he and Chandok have expired. Is it 3 years?

Button maybe, but why not Jolyon Palmer, raced in 2017 Japanese GP.

[SmallSoldier]

Rumors about James Key in Ferrari
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... n=widget-1

Find this one hard to believe considering he’s only just been able to do his first car at MaC

I’m not even sure that article constitutes a rumour, more like just a random name thrown into a poorly written boring article to try to stop people regretting they read it. It didn’t work, I still regretted reading the article but it did remind me why I stay clear of any auto sport family companies

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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[PlatinumZealot]

Nice read into the Mind of Zac Brown.

Did ypu know that Tim Goss, Peter Prodromu and Matt Morris couldnt get along? Here have a read..

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsport ... en-racing/

It gets lumpier. Back over on the F1 team, Brown split up the three-headed dragon of Tim Goss, Peter Prodromou, and Matt Morris, all of whom were in charge of designing the car but couldn’t get along with one another."

“That was an organizational setup that was done by Martin Whitmarsh, the previous racing CEO, and it never worked.”

Brown channeled those responsibilities into a single man in James Key. As he tells it, the hiring of Key, along with several other new team leaders, was the culmination of him identifying hierarchical problems he inherited with the job and then correcting them as quickly as he could in the face of signed contracts, scattershot availability of outside talent, and F1’s endless lead times.

I will let Brown off the Hook for now...

[Big Tea]

Ant Davidson? He's got the simulator time and, in the simulator, he tries to emulate the driving style of whichever driver he is simming for so it shouldn't be a big step into the car.

The issue will be the Super licence. I wonder how easy it would be to keep one 'ticking over'?

Yeh, I think both he and Chandok have expired. Is it 3 years?

Button maybe, but why not Jolyon Palmer, raced in 2017 Japanese GP.

Didn't think of him, must have been good

[ScottR267]

Find this one hard to believe considering he’s only just been able to do his first car at MaC

I’m not even sure that article constitutes a rumour, more like just a random name thrown into a poorly written boring article to try to stop people regretting they read it. It didn’t work, I still regretted reading the article but it did remind me why I stay clear of any auto sport family companies

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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Few years back, didn’t McLaren say that they had signed Loic Serra from Mercedes however never come to fruition? Not sure if they signed any engineers from other teams over the winter, however given the current climate and the fact they had to make some staff redundant across the company over recent months, they won’t be on a recruitment drive...

[the EDGE]

Find this one hard to believe considering he’s only just been able to do his first car at MaC

I’m not even sure that article constitutes a rumour, more like just a random name thrown into a poorly written boring article to try to stop people regretting they read it. It didn’t work, I still regretted reading the article but it did remind me why I stay clear of any auto sport family companies

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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A few years ago I would have agreed but the 22 regs ban hydraulic Suspension and only permit Simple springs & Dampers so by the time a system was designed built & tested it would be too late

Far better to follow RPM’s solution and simply buy it direct from Mercedes next year!

[SmallSoldier]

I’m not even sure that article constitutes a rumour, more like just a random name thrown into a poorly written boring article to try to stop people regretting they read it. It didn’t work, I still regretted reading the article but it did remind me why I stay clear of any auto sport family companies

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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A few years ago I would have agreed but the 22 regs ban hydraulic Suspension and only permit Simple springs & Dampers so by the time a system was designed built & tested it would be too late

Far better to follow RPM’s solution and simply buy it direct from Mercedes next year!

I’m afraid Mclaren wouldn’t be looking at buying from Mercedes any chassis parts, buying “last year’s” design will always keep them behind Mercedes in whichever area they buy from (except the engines, where it’s the same spec)... In addition, Mclaren’s seem set on developing their own solutions, which I don’t disagree with.


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[Big Tea]

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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A few years ago I would have agreed but the 22 regs ban hydraulic Suspension and only permit Simple springs & Dampers so by the time a system was designed built & tested it would be too late

Far better to follow RPM’s solution and simply buy it direct from Mercedes next year!

I’m afraid Mclaren wouldn’t be looking at buying from Mercedes any chassis parts, buying “last year’s” design will always keep them behind Mercedes in whichever area they buy from (except the engines, where it’s the same spec)... In addition, Mclaren’s seem set on developing their own solutions, which I don’t disagree with.


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If you buy parts you know are as good as it gets, it frees up a lot of resource to work on things that are not the best.
Not that easy a decision.

[the EDGE]

This made me think about who else Mclaren should try and get... And would love to see Mclaren go for whomever is in charge of suspension development at Mercedes!


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A few years ago I would have agreed but the 22 regs ban hydraulic Suspension and only permit Simple springs & Dampers so by the time a system was designed built & tested it would be too late

Far better to follow RPM’s solution and simply buy it direct from Mercedes next year!

I’m afraid Mclaren wouldn’t be looking at buying from Mercedes any chassis parts, buying “last year’s” design will always keep them behind Mercedes in whichever area they buy from (except the engines, where it’s the same spec)... In addition, Mclaren’s seem set on developing their own solutions, which I don’t disagree with.


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I meant to say ‘for’ next year.. not ‘from‘ next year lol, seeing as the Current systemS will be obsolete after that

But I agree with you, I’m wholeheartedly against any sort of customer parts for F1 teams (bar engine & transition) but... if Mclaren could incorporate Merc suspension into its chassis next year for just the 1 year, which I’m not even sure would be possible with the restriction imposed on chassis changes, I’d be happy to bend my beliefs enough

For 22, there really shouldn't be much difference Between teams, given the simplicity of the systems. It will be more about who manages the change to the low profile tyres better, which will be a huge challenge, and any team could come out on top here

[McFAN]

This will help in the fight for third in the constructors

[djos]

I’m not even a little surprised, it was pretty obvious from the pictures they’d blatantly copied last years Mercedes design.

[damager21]

This will help in the fight for third in the constructors

I think this is a joke. Stripping Racing Point of just 15 points and imposing a petty fine does not solve the problem or help anyone.

If Racing point gets to use all the parts as before, I think this is a good deal for them. They could potentially finish the year on 4th or 5th place which would mean millions of dollar in revenue end of the year (They will easily make much more than what they are paying now as penalty)

McLaren was the only team I can remember which was shamed and a $100mn fine was imposed as an outcome of spygate scandal. FIA continues to cover up what Ferrari did last year (clearly cheating) and now Racing Point

[djos]

I totally agree, it’s utterly ridiculous that Racing Point are allowed to continue using their copied brake ducts when teams Like HASS are not allowed to use last years Ferrari ducts.

[Ground Effect]

Sometimes I feel McLaren should still seek redress for the spygate ruling, clearly unfair and personal issues were at play.