diffuser wrote: ↑18 Mar 2026, 17:20
zoroastar wrote: ↑18 Mar 2026, 04:02
mzso wrote: ↑18 Mar 2026, 01:02
I'm quite sure it was Honda management's job to manage Honda. I can't how it's AM's fault, if all they was told that everything's fine and AM leadership only got wind of Honda falling back on targets is via leaked rumors. If indeed that is how it happened, it's dishonest and a disrespectful.
There were also rumors, that Honda made last minute changed to the engine design. So who knows...
yeah this whole narrative of the "honda babysitter clause" is almost hysterical to me. what other formula 1 engine supplier gets a pass for under-performing because the guys that are in charge of designing the chassis didnt help them enough? honda is one of the largest, most accomplished motor manufacturers on the planet. building great engines is literally what they are famous for. in hindsight, yeah, they obviously needed all the help from aston that they couldve recieved, but i can see a better argument that aston had a monumental task at hand to make a competitive chassis with 4 months less time than the other teams. it would be nice if "the great engine manufacturer" could cover the power unit part of the equation. that is what they do right?? even if aston was told that honda were going to shuffle their talented NEW engineers into the project (doubtful they were told about that) and send the ones with f1 experience to other parts of the company, aston wouldve naturally thought that honda must know what theyre doing. otherwise, the fact that they would do that just sounds really amateur to me. i wonder if the chassis happens to suck, would honda get blamed? it seems to me like a serious case of an engine supplier half assing their project. always with one foot in and one foot out of the sport. they hopped back in last minute and didnt get their sh#$ together until they already had a disaster on their hands
if this sounds cynical, then i have accomplished something today
Look at it this way...what other WORKS team has PU manufacturer 9600KM and 9 hrs away ? ZERO. All the other teams are right there, next to the PU manufacture with babysitting.
It isn't a pass, it just normal management if you don't want surprises ....
see I agree with this ... They should have had a team of guys there from the day they signed with a translator working with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KLkS-qofdM&t=622s
yeah i already saw that. its still treating honda as if they are children who havent ever done this before. its obvious that them being across the planet caused a lot of this. but the biggest problem is that honda do f1 on a whim. every few years their upper management decide to quit and then jump back in, in the middle of a new rule set and think that they can be good enough to be competiive. and like i said, start the new project with a bunch of rookies that have never done it before. if thats how they treat their partners, then yeah, i guess they do need to be treated like a bunch of amatuers that need to be babysitted. but who would ever imagine that thats how they would set up an f1 team. its not even logical to most people. its good for honda and pretty selfish for anybody that has to deal with the ramifications.