2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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V10FURY wrote:
21 Mar 2026, 17:04
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21 Mar 2026, 15:26
F1unchained said the AMR26 has a massive upgrade for Japan. This is the car they were supposed to start the season with. Along with the attempted fix for the vibrations.
Not sure why they would bother with a large upgrade at Japan and not just wait until Miami to ensure as much work as possible was done to fix the current vibrations / power unit. The upgrade data is meaningless if they can’t even run the car for more than 10 laps at 75% speed. They should have run the Aston Martin car designed last year , before Newey arrived , for the first half of this season to let him have the extra time needed. Then introduce his car by round 9 as the big season upgrade to then tweak it further for a full run at the podiums in 2027. I think if they had done this plan then they would have figured out much sooner that the engine was a turd 🍔 that needed major attention. They might be at Williams level already this season and actually finishing races.

If Aston has any fixed in place by the Japanese GP that make any significant difference to their current woes I will be pleasantly surprised. I think Miami is a more realistic timeline to get them finishing a full race distance with both cars , without them shaking apart. Will they be competitive in Miami? Probably only with Cadillac I think, and whichever car at Williams or the other teams has issues.

This year is a complete debacle so the team should solely focus on 2027 with Honda to make sure this is not a 3-4 year 💩 show for the team. If the engine is fundamentally flawed in design/ execution/harmonics/power/harvesting/and deployment it doesn’t matter what the chassis and aero team can come up with this season. Save the duckets for 2027 and make sure Honda are spending every single Yen on getting this engine package reliable, and powerful for 2027. Otherwise Jonathan Wheatleys first order of business as the new TP might be a call to his old boss at Audi to sign up for their engine packages for 2027. Probably a good idea if they can’t get on top of these issues at Honda by mid season, as Stroll SR is not going to wait years to turn this around.
#1 I think that this was scheduled a while ago. Big upgrades take 8-10 weeks. So the parts are ready.

#2 Miami is a sprint weekend, Japan is not.

#3 F1Unchained said there are vibration upgrades in the chassis.

#4 He also said, if it isn't fixed for Japan, it probably will not be until Silverstone. He also said that Honda will likely get the >4% behind bonus, will be allowed 2 ICE upgrades and exceed the CAP.

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This was posted back in mid February 2026...

https://x.com/amrf1insights/status/2024437330581279020

So, it looks like they might possibly have an update for Japan and also updates for the Miami or Canadian GP.

I think there is going to be lots of updates both engine and chassis throughout 2026.

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I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
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I want to believe, but I'm still cautious...


I can definitely believe that Honda doesn't want to be embarrassed in Japan, but is it realistic? We'll see.

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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
I would be surprised if Alonso doesn't renew for 2027 and maybe even 2028. Suffering all these years and now being in this situation, ending his career in last place, would make all his resilience worthless. Besides, I doubt that, given the current situation, any driver of Alonso's caliber would go to Aston Martin already in 2027. Even suffering now, I don't see the point in Alonso deciding to stop. He would only stop if at least the car was fighting for something. Unless he is forcibly removed from the team, I don't see that happening.

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If the updates are coming for the Japanese GP, that's good news if the reports are true.

It would be GREAT if these updates completely transform the car, a complete elimination of vibrations and big power gains and both cars can finish the race in the top 10. But...

I don't think that's realistic. I think a more realistic result is vibrations are reduced to the point where it doesn't negatively effect the drivers, modest power gains and at least one of the drivers gets a top 12 finish, maybe at least 10th place.

Alonso got up into 10th place quickly at the Chinese GP by lap 5 and that was with vibrations and low power, so this car is capable of a lot more and Alonso can get it in the top 7 with improvements I think.

I think it's around the Miami/Canadian GP where the big updates arrive and B-spec engine is raced.

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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.

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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:56
If the updates are coming for the Japanese GP, that's good news if the reports are true.

It would be GREAT if these updates completely transform the car, a complete elimination of vibrations and big power gains and both cars can finish the race in the top 10. But...

I don't think that's realistic. I think a more realistic result is vibrations are reduced to the point where it doesn't negatively effect the drivers, modest power gains and at least one of the drivers gets a top 12 finish, maybe at least 10th place.

Alonso got up into 10th place quickly at the Chinese GP by lap 5 and that was with vibrations and low power, so this car is capable of a lot more and Alonso can get it in the top 7 with improvements I think.

I think it's around the Miami/Canadian GP where the big updates arrive and B-spec engine is raced.
We need to keep these positive vibes at least till FP1 :D :D :D I can't bare another month of 'Honda Engine Fu**up' discussions.

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diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:29
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.
It's not about reinventing RBR at AMR but, learning what works at other teams and implementing it at AM.

RBR won 4 straight titles from 2010 to 2013 and 4 straight titles from 2021 to 2025, almost winning 5 straight. That's something Ferrari, McLaren and Renault have not done. Ferrari's last dynasty was under Michael Schumacher.

AM needs to learn what works from the top teams (McLaren, RBR) and it looks like Stroll is recreating a RBR/McLaren style operation at AM which is fine by me.

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Jonathan Wheatley
Hopefully more to come
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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:44
diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:29
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.
It's not about reinventing RBR at AMR but, learning what works at other teams and implementing it at AM.

RBR won 4 straight titles from 2010 to 2013 and 4 straight titles from 2021 to 2025, almost winning 5 straight. That's something Ferrari, McLaren and Renault have not done. Ferrari's last dynasty was under Michael Schumacher.

AM needs to learn what works from the top teams (Mercedes, RBR) and it looks like Stroll is recreating a RBR/Mercedes style operation at AM which is fine by me.

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Jonathan Wheatley
Hopefully more to come
When RB bought over Jaguar, the only big name they got was AN.

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CHT wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:54
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:44
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22 Mar 2026, 01:29


We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.
It's not about reinventing RBR at AMR but, learning what works at other teams and implementing it at AM.

RBR won 4 straight titles from 2010 to 2013 and 4 straight titles from 2021 to 2025, almost winning 5 straight. That's something Ferrari, McLaren and Renault have not done. Ferrari's last dynasty was under Michael Schumacher.

AM needs to learn what works from the top teams (Mercedes, RBR) and it looks like Stroll is recreating a RBR/Mercedes style operation at AM which is fine by me.

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Jonathan Wheatley
Hopefully more to come
When RB bought over Jaguar, the only big name they got was AN.
And, that Adrian Newey hire was MASSIVE. Then, they eventually hired Jonathan Wheatley and Pierre Wache among others. RBR added talent over the years, that's what Aston Martin is doing now. You can't hire everyone you want right away on day 1 when many of those people are under contract with other teams, you got to wait for them to be available.

There might be other big names to get hired by Aston Martin...

Wheatley's surprise departure from Audi on Friday will only heighten noise about the former Red Bull sporting director joining Aston Martin. Lawrence Stroll revealed the team have been approached by other F1 personnel to join the Silverstone-based outfit.

"We are regularly approached by senior executives of other teams who wish to join Aston Martin Aramco, but in keeping with our policy, we do not comment on rumour and speculation."


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12040 ... -principal

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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:44
diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:29
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.
It's not about reinventing RBR at AMR but, learning what works at other teams and implementing it at AM.

RBR won 4 straight titles from 2010 to 2013 and 4 straight titles from 2021 to 2025, almost winning 5 straight. That's something Ferrari, McLaren and Renault have not done. Ferrari's last dynasty was under Michael Schumacher.

AM needs to learn what works from the top teams (Mercedes, RBR) and it looks like Stroll is recreating a RBR/Mercedes style operation at AM which is fine by me.

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Jonathan Wheatley
Hopefully more to come
Like I said, we don't need him. You're not learning shiit. Copying isn't learning. There atleast 5 other drivers that could do the job when it comes time to get a driver. Right now you have 2 drivers and Alonso gets first digs at the 2nd seat for next year. As far as Max, you couldn't find a truck big enough to fill with money to convince Max to come over. So that's just a waste of energy. We don't even know how competitive we are when we turn up the wick on the motor.

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diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 04:27
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:44
diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 01:29


We don't need to reinvent RBR at AMR.
It's not about reinventing RBR at AMR but, learning what works at other teams and implementing it at AM.

RBR won 4 straight titles from 2010 to 2013 and 4 straight titles from 2021 to 2025, almost winning 5 straight. That's something Ferrari, McLaren and Renault have not done. Ferrari's last dynasty was under Michael Schumacher.

AM needs to learn what works from the top teams (Mercedes, RBR) and it looks like Stroll is recreating a RBR/Mercedes style operation at AM which is fine by me.

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Jonathan Wheatley
Hopefully more to come
Like I said, we don't need him. You're not learning shiit. Copying isn't learning. There atleast 5 other drivers that could do the job when it comes time to get a driver. Right now you have 2 drivers and Alonso gets first digs at the 2nd seat for next year. As far as Max, you couldn't find a truck big enough to fill with money to convince Max to come over. So that's just a waste of energy. We don't even know how competitive we are when we turn up the wick on the motor.
It's up to Lawrence Stroll and Max Verstappen. If it was up to you there might not have been an Adrian Newey, Andy Cowell, Jonathan Wheatley or Honda engine at AM because that's "copying" Mercedes and RBR.

Copying is learning, these teams copy each other often, it's a copy cat league like most sports.
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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 00:07
I'd like to see Aston Martin try to sign Max Verstappen for 2027.

He's the best driver and gets the most out of the car of all drivers IMO. He will cost a lot, he will bring media attention good and bad depending on how you perceive good and bad. I don't care about the supposed "bad publicity" narrative when he can win championships.

In order for AM to lure Max over, a lot of money and Max will want to race in GT NLS2 Nürburgring, DTM, Le Mans etc. Supply his private team with a Aston Martin and Honda GT race car.

I do like Fernando Alonso but, he's not in his 20's anymore. I personally want to see two different drivers at AM for 2027. Max Verstappen and one of these drivers below if they are not under contract for 2027...

Oliver Bearman
Arvid Lindblad
Esteban Ocon 
Liam Lawson
Carlos Sainz
And I want Vettel back, but I'm willing to settle for Alex Palou.

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Alonso isn't the problem driver. Stroll Sr needs to understand that if he really wants a serious team that can get WCC money.