2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Seanspeed]

BTW, what would constitute as success for 2025 for RedBull/Max? Is there a consensus on that?

1. WDC/WCC by few races to spare
2. Being able to fight for WDC but with 50/50 outcome (vs McLaren presumably?)
3. Clear 2nd with being able to pick up a few wins here and there and hope for the rest
4. Being in the mix of 4 big teams and able to fight for podiums consistently?

For me it is #2, but other people might have different expectations so that will make interpretation of events different, too.

When you're entering a season as WDC with no serious regulation changes, nothing except a repeat will be anything except a disappointment.

For Red Bull as a team, it's a little more complicated, but if they cant regularly compete with Mclaren for wins on merit, then it'll be solidification of Red Bull's backslide.

[Macklaren]

I think this could be a make or break season for Waché as well.
He needs to show that he can stand on his own without Newey, but if he can't turn it around this year and maybe comes up with a dud in 2026, that could be career over for him.

Agreed, but kind of like Allison at Merc, what is RBR's option? not like there is another Newey out there that they can bring on board

[ispano6]

Red Bull likely is suffering from the loss of Newey and Rob Marshall, both who could take driver feedback and make appropriate adjustments. McLaren probably obviously is benefitting from gaining Marshall.