2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Sainz will replace Alonso once he decides to retire. That's my vet.

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Redragon wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 23:57
Sainz will replace Alonso once he decides to retire. That's my vet.
I think Sainz is very underrated.

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erikejw wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 23:47
Horners gardening leave are rumoured for april 2026, possibly 9 months.

Newey said early he'll temporarily take on the team principal role for 6 races. Meaning including Miami for the original race schedule.

The facts above might be inaccurate but let's assume they're not.

Meaning someone are supposed to join at that time frame, about Miami.

It's also painfully obvious that AM needs a politically savvy team principal/CEO, capable of keeping strong egos in check and get them running in the same direction.

That AN stepped down early might he a gesture towards Honda. The press conference was unacceptable from a Japanese perspective and they need to work together and not project blame(obviously Honda hadn't performed but AM needed to pick up that ball earlier too).

Too many tech savvy high performing F1 personal don't understand when they need to stop aspiring to higher positions, just because you are world class in one area doesn't mean you should be head of something or team principal(not about Adrian) etc.

Then in that role they meddle with what they know and dont execute in their actual role.

Wheatley is most likely not the answer. Why hire someone never been in the role of their are capable reputable former TPs. Maybe as a TP if Horner is CEO.

Horner fits perfect with all known facts for TP/CEO. He might also contribute to letting Stroll be more of a Matechits when the structure and organisation is more solid.

Yes Horner wants to be a partner. Then give him at least a bone in a performance clause. If AM wins the driver and team championships he's earned the right to buy a predefined percentage for a predefined amount.

Let's see how it all pans out.
I think hiring Horner is a bit of a waste of time. The only reason you’d need someone to manage media messaging is if you expect the PU issues to continue for years. Personally, I don’t want to live through another three years of this—either shape up or ship out. I’d rather be direct with Honda and make it clear it’s time to part ways, rather than trying to smooth things over publicly.

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Jonathan Wheatley has already stated how he can sign Max Verstappen for Aston Martin...

https://www.f1oversteer.com/news/jonath ... on-martin/


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Hopefully by Spa they'll be inside the top 10. By the U.S. Grand Prix in Texas a 5th or 6th place ? 2026 seems like Mercedes and Ferrari are going to run away with it and battle it out till the end.
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What AMR need now is more time to sort out the engine problem, not more celebrity engineers.
Unfortunately AMR may not have too much time to sustain another poor season as LS had made huge financial bet on its new factory and Newey to deliver their 2026 challenger. Aside from losing Aston Martin as sponsor this year, AMR may possibly suffer a price money cut of $30-40 million if they finish 2nd last in constructor.

For Christian Horner, I am guessing he may be teaming up with major car company or buyer to orchestrate a possible buyout of the team. I dont think he is looking for a job as TP only.

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CHT wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 05:16
What AMR need now is more time to sort out the engine problem, not more celebrity engineers.
Unfortunately AMR may not have too much time to sustain another poor season as LS had made huge financial bet on its new factory and Newey to deliver their 2026 challenger. Aside from losing Aston Martin as sponsor this year, AMR may possibly suffer a price money cut of $30-40 million if they finish 2nd last in constructor.

For Christian Horner, I am guessing he may be teaming up with major car company or buyer to orchestrate a possible buyout of the team. I dont think he is looking for a job as TP only.
Long-term vision: Honda Racing Corporation President Koji Watanabe emphasized that the partnership extends beyond 2026, stating the goal is to be successful not just in 2026, but also in 2027, 2028, and beyond, with the ultimate aim of winning the World Championship.

Maybe some big improvements coming from Honda this season, a big update around the Miami/Canadian GP with the B-spec engine possibly ?
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ElliotDelgado wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 22:53
Petebass wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 15:30
I insist; as ALO, STR,Krack, Newey...said; vibrations are not the problem, lack of power is.
When vibrations dissapear, we will see AM fighting for 9th team, no more.
I do not hope anything important until 2027 (around 2%)
I have read similar things but the context i have seen was that they can't run the engine at its full potencial (full power) because of these vibrations, from what i have read the vibrations come from the ICE if that is accurate it would make sense they restrict the power on it to avoid damage, also I think they were still figuring out the drivability on the last race, again with less power available that changes constantly.

I think once the vibrations are reduced enough and they can use the engine at it's full potential we'll see how the car really works, right now it's not really possible to say, in this video of B Sport he says that they have not run at full power either, lets see if the Japan fixes work enough and they can push the car harder.

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De la Rosa said; vibrations come from ERS and its integration with motor, not from ICE.
Krack said; the solution of vibrations will not give us "seconds".
The problem is Power. This will go out when vibrations dissapear

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Petebass wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:21
ElliotDelgado wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 22:53
Petebass wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 15:30
I insist; as ALO, STR,Krack, Newey...said; vibrations are not the problem, lack of power is.
When vibrations dissapear, we will see AM fighting for 9th team, no more.
I do not hope anything important until 2027 (around 2%)
I have read similar things but the context i have seen was that they can't run the engine at its full potencial (full power) because of these vibrations, from what i have read the vibrations come from the ICE if that is accurate it would make sense they restrict the power on it to avoid damage, also I think they were still figuring out the drivability on the last race, again with less power available that changes constantly.

I think once the vibrations are reduced enough and they can use the engine at it's full potential we'll see how the car really works, right now it's not really possible to say, in this video of B Sport he says that they have not run at full power either, lets see if the Japan fixes work enough and they can push the car harder.

Video:
De la Rosa said; vibrations come from ERS and its integration with motor, not from ICE.
Krack said; the solution of vibrations will not give us "seconds".
The problem is Power. This will go out when vibrations dissapear
What does it imply, we know that ICE is not at 100%, what about ERS is it working at 100%.
If they managed to stop the vibrations, then they can
1 - Run the ICE at 100%
2 - ERS ???
So at AMR they assume that the gain will be in "second ie around 1sec" and not "Seconds"

What about optimization of the chassis and aero ???

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collindsilva wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:47
Petebass wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:21
ElliotDelgado wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 22:53


I have read similar things but the context i have seen was that they can't run the engine at its full potencial (full power) because of these vibrations, from what i have read the vibrations come from the ICE if that is accurate it would make sense they restrict the power on it to avoid damage, also I think they were still figuring out the drivability on the last race, again with less power available that changes constantly.

I think once the vibrations are reduced enough and they can use the engine at it's full potential we'll see how the car really works, right now it's not really possible to say, in this video of B Sport he says that they have not run at full power either, lets see if the Japan fixes work enough and they can push the car harder.

Video:
De la Rosa said; vibrations come from ERS and its integration with motor, not from ICE.
Krack said; the solution of vibrations will not give us "seconds".
The problem is Power. This will go out when vibrations dissapear
What does it imply, we know that ICE is not at 100%, what about ERS is it working at 100%.
If they managed to stop the vibrations, then they can
1 - Run the ICE at 100%
2 - ERS ???
So at AMR they assume that the gain will be in "second ie around 1sec" and not "Seconds"

What about optimization of the chassis and aero ???
Do we know that? Are there quotes saying they’ve had to limit the ICE specifically? Not talking about testing now, but the races and quali.

To me the quotes from Newey and others point towards a limitation in the MGU-K due to the vibrations, and a separate power deficit in the ICE that is more fundamental.

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Newey was clear; Honda must think about 2027.
I think is the reason Cowell is in Japan; 2027

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Petebass wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:21
ElliotDelgado wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 22:53
Petebass wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 15:30
I insist; as ALO, STR,Krack, Newey...said; vibrations are not the problem, lack of power is.
When vibrations dissapear, we will see AM fighting for 9th team, no more.
I do not hope anything important until 2027 (around 2%)
I have read similar things but the context i have seen was that they can't run the engine at its full potencial (full power) because of these vibrations, from what i have read the vibrations come from the ICE if that is accurate it would make sense they restrict the power on it to avoid damage, also I think they were still figuring out the drivability on the last race, again with less power available that changes constantly.

I think once the vibrations are reduced enough and they can use the engine at it's full potential we'll see how the car really works, right now it's not really possible to say, in this video of B Sport he says that they have not run at full power either, lets see if the Japan fixes work enough and they can push the car harder.

Video:
De la Rosa said; vibrations come from ERS and its integration with motor, not from ICE.
Krack said; the solution of vibrations will not give us "seconds".
The problem is Power. This will go out when vibrations dissapear
ERS and ICE are mechanically mounted to each other..vibration from ICE possible amplify the vibration of ERS

Lack of power could mean the ICE is unable to run at full potential due to this

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Honda Porsche fan wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 03:54
Aston Martin is serious about establishing itself as a elite team...

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Bob Bell
Enrico Cardile (formerly at Ferrari F1)
Jonathan Wheatley
Luca Furbatto

They are now designing and building their own gearbox and rear suspension in-house for the first time since 2008, ending its long-standing reliance on Mercedes-supplied components.

All the pieces are coming together and with Honda improvements throughout the season they should be moving up the grid this season.

Hopefully by Spa they'll be inside the top 10. By the U.S. Grand Prix in Texas a 5th or 6th place ?
I hope this was a sarcastic joke. Bob Bell is no longer at AMF1 and Luca Furbatto’s incompetence is the main reason Aston is in its current state.

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toyotaworn wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 13:00
Honda Porsche fan wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 03:54
Aston Martin is serious about establishing itself as a elite team...

Adrian Newey
Andy Cowell
Bob Bell
Enrico Cardile (formerly at Ferrari F1)
Jonathan Wheatley
Luca Furbatto

They are now designing and building their own gearbox and rear suspension in-house for the first time since 2008, ending its long-standing reliance on Mercedes-supplied components.

All the pieces are coming together and with Honda improvements throughout the season they should be moving up the grid this season.

Hopefully by Spa they'll be inside the top 10. By the U.S. Grand Prix in Texas a 5th or 6th place ?
I hope this was a sarcastic joke. Bob Bell is no longer at AMF1 and Luca Furbatto’s incompetence is the main reason Aston is in its current state.
Bob Bell was reported in F1 moving Staff to have been moved the AM performance, where all AM F1 engineers go before leaving. He maybe retiring.

Luca Furbatto I can't speak too. He had spent time at torro rosso, Newey is likely familiar with him. So maybe, he was put in a position above his ability. You'd think if he was a problem employee, he'd already be over with Bell.

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Will they have to take new PUs in Japan if Honda has done something to solve the vibrations? This can't be a "software patch"?
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