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Alo_Fan wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 17:54
Weird FP2, Stroll looks quicker on low fuel and high fuel runs
Stroll started off faster in the long runs. Slowly Alonso Got faster than him. Initiall just in S1 on Lap 3, then on S1 and S2 by Lap 4 ... by lap 5 he was faster that Stroll in all 3 sectors and almost .5 per lap.

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diffuser wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:25
Alo_Fan wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 17:54
Weird FP2, Stroll looks quicker on low fuel and high fuel runs
Stroll started off faster in the long runs. Slowly Alonso Got faster than him. Initiall just in S1 on Lap 3, then on S1 and S2 by Lap 4 ... by lap 5 he was faster that Stroll in all 3 sectors and almost .5 per lap.
In hindsight, I wonder if the team tried two different approaches where Alonso had a slow target lap time and Stroll had a quicker target. Stroll quickly fell off after the first couple of laps while Alonso got quicker at the end of the stint. Kind of similar to last weekend in that at least in the low fuel runs in practice, Stroll looks more confident.

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Alo_Fan wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:20
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04 Jul 2025, 18:17
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04 Jul 2025, 18:07


Compared to the leaders it is. The race pace isn't too bad relative to the midfield.
Williams, Sauber, and RB were putting in better lap times than AM.

Hoping for rain tomorrow.
Hope they can dial in the setup overnight, in a way I want to see what these upgrades can do in dry conditions

They will certainly dial it in overnight, come up with some setup ideas. The unknown is how much better it will be.

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F1TV showed graphic comparing ALO and STR quali laps. STR gained 0.4sec on ALO and everything was in slow speed corners.

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vas_04614 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:38
F1TV showed graphic comparing ALO and STR quali laps. STR gained 0.4sec on ALO and everything was in slow speed corners.
Clearly lower fuel or new upgrades suit high speed better, but causing more low speed issues. Think only Alonso got the upgrades first today
Halo not as bad as we thought

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I think they both had the upgrades in FP2 but stroll a bigger rear wing than alonso, which would explain why Stroll gained so much in the slow speed corners.

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Basically
FP1: Only Alonso had new package
FP2: Alonso and Stroll both ran new package. Alonso was testing a lower downforce setup whereas stroll was running normal and or higher downforce setup.

That’s all the information we have. They’ll be fine tuning stuff overnight and tomorrow morning

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Some parts on the floor are now sculpted while before the more lifted up. Interesting 180° change. It will be long night analysing the data on the simulator. Tomorrow they will be stronger.

BTW I heard Toto saying this cars can be strongly competitive in one circuit and not in another circuit, no matter how hard you try to fix it. So it seems now "normal" if you have races when you struggle at the bottom and others where you fight at the front.

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SSJ4 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 19:33
Basically
FP1: Only Alonso had new package
FP2: Alonso and Stroll both ran new package. Alonso was testing a lower downforce setup whereas stroll was running normal and or higher downforce setup.

That’s all the information we have. They’ll be fine tuning stuff overnight and tomorrow morning
thx for that.

can you post your source.

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 19:19
vas_04614 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:38
F1TV showed graphic comparing ALO and STR quali laps. STR gained 0.4sec on ALO and everything was in slow speed corners.
Clearly lower fuel or new upgrades suit high speed better, but causing more low speed issues. Think only Alonso got the upgrades first today
Just an FYI, Stroll did out qualify Alonso @ Silverstone in 2024.

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Alo_Fan wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:27
diffuser wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 18:25
Alo_Fan wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 17:54
Weird FP2, Stroll looks quicker on low fuel and high fuel runs
Stroll started off faster in the long runs. Slowly Alonso Got faster than him. Initiall just in S1 on Lap 3, then on S1 and S2 by Lap 4 ... by lap 5 he was faster that Stroll in all 3 sectors and almost .5 per lap.
In hindsight, I wonder if the team tried two different approaches where Alonso had a slow target lap time and Stroll had a quicker target. Stroll quickly fell off after the first couple of laps while Alonso got quicker at the end of the stint. Kind of similar to last weekend in that at least in the low fuel runs in practice, Stroll looks more confident.
SSJ4 said Initially Stroll had the High DF setup,while Alonso the low DF. Your guess is as good as mine if they replaced Alonsos's setup for the long runs. I doubt it, cause, it would have required some fine tuning and you'd loose that comparison. I just think Alonso is just more of a tire whisperer than Stroll. He can get more tire life out of a low DF config than Stroll can with High DF.

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diffuser wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 19:55
SSJ4 wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 19:33
Basically
FP1: Only Alonso had new package
FP2: Alonso and Stroll both ran new package. Alonso was testing a lower downforce setup whereas stroll was running normal and or higher downforce setup.

That’s all the information we have. They’ll be fine tuning stuff overnight and tomorrow morning
thx for that.

can you post your source.
DLR mentioned it during fp2 broadcast on DAZN

Also speed trap figures

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ALO explained after Q in Austria that both drivers experimented with set ups, because of oversteer in high speed and understeer in low speed. ALO decided to use STR set up and outqualified him. But he added that STRs set up was the better one but this under and oversteer characteristics of the car stay the same. I guess it could be the same here.

A little reality check for sure for some of the dreamers here. AMR has always been between 5-9 so far and will stay in this range until the season ends, no doubt.

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Str outqualifyed Alo in Silverstone 24, but it was a strange Q3, Str made his lap when the track was drying (I'm speaking from memory, not totally sure).

I think the different setup tests will bring some tenths after proper analysis. Also, Alo seemed to be a little cautious in his fast lap. I'm sure he could have been a couple tenths faster easily.

And the long run, he started calmed and conservative and ended faster. It would have been great to have 3 or 4 more laps to evaluate tyre wear and pace.

I think the upgrades are working. At Imola they worked, and it didn't show up on the first free practices.

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Sedaxel wrote:
04 Jul 2025, 20:41
Str outqualifyed Alo in Silverstone 24, but it was a strange Q3, Str made his lap when the track was drying (I'm speaking from memory, not totally sure).

I think the different setup tests will bring some tenths after proper analysis. Also, Alo seemed to be a little cautious in his fast lap. I'm sure he could have been a couple tenths faster easily.

And the long run, he started calmed and conservative and ended faster. It would have been great to have 3 or 4 more laps to evaluate tyre wear and pace.

I think the upgrades are working. At Imola they worked, and it didn't show up on the first free practices.
Good memory, went back and looked at it. It did rain in Q2 but it was dry and sunny for the final Q2 run and for Q3. He just didn't improve in Q3. Sometimes in Silverstone it can just be a poorly timed gust of wind.
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