Keeping up with the Lewis Hamiltions!dot235 wrote:
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The World Motor Sport Council has today formally approved the return of the Formula One qualifying system as it was used in 2015. This means the elimination of 6 cars in the first two parts of qualifying, before a shootout among 10 cars in the final session.
Keeping up with the Lewis Hamiltions!dot235 wrote:
What you mean? Shhh...
Formula1 is all about the reality show!
It wasn't incompetence, there simply wasn't time to get the car refuelled and out again. If they were having a problem at a short track like this, imagine what would happen at tracks like Spa! And what happens if you get called the the weigh bridge?Henk wrote:The main problem in Q1 was incompetence by the teams. A couple of teams went out 10 seconds too late. In Q2 there was a couple of minutes in the middle that were really exiting. I thought it showed potential and would like to see a better version going forward.Moose wrote:I don't understand why people are saying Q1 and 2 were good. Could they not manage to do the maths in their head and observe that none of the cars could actually have their time count or something?
I disagree. That extra 90 seconds has no allowance for teams to turn the car around and fight back. It just isn't worth it to fuel for multiple laps as the car will only be slower anyway and you won't stand a chance. That is why the teams only ran one lap and gave up. The rules are rubbish and that's why it was thrown out.Henk wrote:So only the Manors weren't able to get in an extra lap. The other teams lost out because of sheer incompetence. They had the time.
Guitierez was 10 seconds late to the finish and possibly too late because of a miscalculation. Grosjean went out 90 seconds later and also didn't make it to the finish in time. The Saubers maybe didn't pit early enough to get a second run which was also a mistake.PlatinumZealot wrote:I disagree. That extra 90 seconds has no allowance for teams to turn the car around and fight back. It just isn't worth it to fuel for multiple laps as the car will only be slower anyway and you won't stand a chance. That is why the teams only ran one lap and gave up. The rules are rubbish and that's why it was thrown out.Henk wrote:So only the Manors weren't able to get in an extra lap. The other teams lost out because of sheer incompetence. They had the time.
I don't feel dumb at all, thanks for your concern. Also I never claimed the new format would be an improvement; I only complained about the negativity of the comments in the thread, as the effect of the proposed changes didn't seem so clear cut to me, and I was interested to see how it all turned out. I actually thought Q1 and Q2 were interesting, with a few teams getting caught out and where the sessions seemed engaging enough. Q3 was a total disaster though, and so now we're going back to the old format. Seems like a storm in a teacup to me. Bernie must be overjoyed at the media attention.Italiano wrote:How dumb do you feel right now? Please, come out and enlighten us how this s***fest was an improvement in any possible way.ChrisDanger wrote:I think what they're trying to do is make that end-of-session excitement last for the elimination period, i.e. for longer albeit to a slighty lesser degree.
What I find sad is that most people are being so negative towards this idea (without having experienced the reality of the change), to such an extent that when someone has a positive outlook people assume he's being sarcastic.
Even Stevie Wonder could have seen how this would turn out. There was no doubt in my mind at any time before Q1 in Oz that this would bomb and backfire, just from the sheer stupidity of a 90 second cutoff and not being able to improve your time as the mark passed. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.ChrisDanger wrote: I only complained about the negativity of the comments in the thread, as the effect of the proposed changes didn't seem so clear cut to me, and I was interested to see how it all turned out.
I understand it wasn't just FIA/FOM who stamped this off, Christian Horner said it had universal agreement from drivers. This is the sort of universal agreement that has given us the shambles of the 2017 rules.Italiano wrote:Even Stevie Wonder could have seen how this would turn out. There was no doubt in my mind at any time before Q1 in Oz that this would bomb and backfire, just from the sheer stupidity of a 90 second cutoff and not being able to improve your time as the mark passed. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.ChrisDanger wrote: I only complained about the negativity of the comments in the thread, as the effect of the proposed changes didn't seem so clear cut to me, and I was interested to see how it all turned out.
What boggles the mind is what on earth were the people responsible for this smoking and/or snorting at the time? Must have some seriously strong stuff.
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