2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 13:13
Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 21:55
Vasseur happy to keep both drivers going forward but hasn't started talks yet, it seems, as the car is the focus at the moment.
The Frenchman is happy to retain both drivers beyond 2024 but says the priority is on this season - and developing their car, not driver contracts.

“Why not? But we will start talking towards the end of the season and they both know it well,” he added. “I told him as soon as I arrived. Today the only priority is to develop the car.”
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1033756/1 ... n-red-bull
Keeping both Leclerc and Sainz is a bad idea. The Team should just pick one and make him first driver while not renewing the other. Sainz is not a good 2nd driver and his driving style is very different from Leclerc. Not a good combination at all.
and you know that won't happen :lol:
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"According to what has been learned, Enrico Cardile pushed very hard to quickly equip the SF-23 with a new and quite different floor.
The good news is that Ferrari will hold the second Filming day at Fiorano on Tuesday with the first specification of the new floor! In addition, the package includes a new front wing and new rear brake ducts."

https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-exclusiv ... -to-sf-23/

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Cardile just confirmed on the press conference that the next year car won't be an evolution of the SF 23 like the SF 23 was for the F1 75.

So aero concept will change.

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FDD wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:14
"According to what has been learned, Enrico Cardile pushed very hard to quickly equip the SF-23 with a new and quite different floor.
The good news is that Ferrari will hold the second Filming day at Fiorano on Tuesday with the first specification of the new floor! In addition, the package includes a new front wing and new rear brake ducts."

https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-exclusiv ... -to-sf-23/
This is an article before the Austrian GP update I think.

Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:58
Cardile just confirmed on the press conference that the next year car won't be an evolution of the SF 23 like the SF 23 was for the F1 75.

So aero concept will change.
Extected, it was looking like this for a while... TD39 and 2023 floor edge changes completely ruined the F1-75 and early SF-23 aero concept...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:07
FDD wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:14
"According to what has been learned, Enrico Cardile pushed very hard to quickly equip the SF-23 with a new and quite different floor.
The good news is that Ferrari will hold the second Filming day at Fiorano on Tuesday with the first specification of the new floor! In addition, the package includes a new front wing and new rear brake ducts."

https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-exclusiv ... -to-sf-23/
This is an article before the Austrian GP update I think.

Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:58
Cardile just confirmed on the press conference that the next year car won't be an evolution of the SF 23 like the SF 23 was for the F1 75.

So aero concept will change.
Extected, it was looking like this for a while... TD39 and 2023 floor edge changes completely ruined the F1-75 and early SF-23 aero concept...
He also said that the main issue is related to aerodynamics and not suspensions. They also know what they did wrong now according to him.

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Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:18
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:07
FDD wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:14
"According to what has been learned, Enrico Cardile pushed very hard to quickly equip the SF-23 with a new and quite different floor.
The good news is that Ferrari will hold the second Filming day at Fiorano on Tuesday with the first specification of the new floor! In addition, the package includes a new front wing and new rear brake ducts."

https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-exclusiv ... -to-sf-23/
This is an article before the Austrian GP update I think.

Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:58
Cardile just confirmed on the press conference that the next year car won't be an evolution of the SF 23 like the SF 23 was for the F1 75.

So aero concept will change.
Extected, it was looking like this for a while... TD39 and 2023 floor edge changes completely ruined the F1-75 and early SF-23 aero concept...
He also said that the main issue is related to aerodynamics and not suspensions. They also know what they did wrong now according to him.
Something which was suspected by many.

Exciting by the sounds of it, if they understand.
A lion must kill its prey.

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New direction confirmed.

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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:33
Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:18
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:07


This is an article before the Austrian GP update I think.




Extected, it was looking like this for a while... TD39 and 2023 floor edge changes completely ruined the F1-75 and early SF-23 aero concept...
He also said that the main issue is related to aerodynamics and not suspensions. They also know what they did wrong now according to him.
Something which was suspected by many.

Exciting by the sounds of it, if they understand.
I wrote the same about it not being suspension anymore as well. Well, not much we can do but wait till Sainz bins it in the first practice session so we can see the floor from below.

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Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:18
He also said that the main issue is related to aerodynamics and not suspensions. They also know what they did wrong now according to him.
That remains to be seen, in relation to aerodynamic performance. However, issues with tyres in Silverstone and Hungary speak volumes of their lack of tyre understanding. You "control" tyres with suspensionndesign and setup...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Meanwhile Robert Shwartzman has released an interview in which he said the SF 23 is the most difficult car he has ever driven.

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As confirmed by Fp1 and Fp2, where both Ferraris look to be all over the place, with Carlos tripping through the gravel at least twice in Fp2.

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gshevlin wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 17:12
As confirmed by Fp1 and Fp2, where both Ferraris look to be all over the place, with Carlos tripping through the gravel at least twice in Fp2.
We now know why Ferrari used those low DWF wings in Bahrain (which was a huge talking point at the start of the season). The car has an awful balance in high DWF configuration and in fact the performance in all tracks that require such a configuration has been terrible. The only outlier was probably Monaco but that is a very unique track.

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Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 16:53
Meanwhile Robert Shwartzman has released an interview in which he said the SF 23 is the most difficult car he has ever driven.
:D
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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 15:07
FDD wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:14
"According to what has been learned, Enrico Cardile pushed very hard to quickly equip the SF-23 with a new and quite different floor.
The good news is that Ferrari will hold the second Filming day at Fiorano on Tuesday with the first specification of the new floor! In addition, the package includes a new front wing and new rear brake ducts."

https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-exclusiv ... -to-sf-23/
This is an article before the Austrian GP update I think.

Xyz22 wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:58
Cardile just confirmed on the press conference that the next year car won't be an evolution of the SF 23 like the SF 23 was for the F1 75.

So aero concept will change.
Extected, it was looking like this for a while... TD39 and 2023 floor edge changes completely ruined the F1-75 and early SF-23 aero concept...
Yes, my old one, my mistake.