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The onboards today looked pretty miserable . It would be good to see the telemetry traces to see how they are 1.5 seconds slower in sector 1 alone. This team needs the month off to regroup and show something positive in Miami. If they are still 3 seconds slower by that race then this season is completely screwed. Honda needs to start work on an all new engine as they revealed it was indeed the ICE causing the damn vibrations. I will not be surprised if Stroll is calling Audi to get that motor for next season as the chances Honda can fix this show anytime soon is close to zero. The Audi Pu seems somewhat competitive, and perhaps will be refined further for next year.
Alonso should take an extended leave to be with his baby and only return if this team can get within 1 second of the leaders. It’s sad and embarrassing watching him trundle around in this GP2 turd bucket. I am expecting both cars to be lapped before they both retire. Cadillac are actually looking amazing compared to Aston. They have made real progress already, while Aston has not. What a miserable start to this season for Alonso and Stroll.
Please don't scold me, I'm going to say what I think of the car, and I know many won't agree. I should add that I have a rather old television that I use as a computer monitor. It's a flat screen, but not a Smart TV; a Panasonic, because I like it. I have DAZN, but I can't choose the driver's view, I suppose because my beloved Panasonic is old. But I don't plan on changing it.
It's very difficult to calculate the difference in lap times simply by looking at the standard screen and noticing appreciable differences (in fact, this is the reason for all this rambling).
It seems to me that the car flexes. It handles well, but it's not as rigid as the others. It seems to undulate even though the engine doesn't roar like a beast.
Now I'll tell you what I suspect: Newey thought about reducing the weight using a kind of "flexible template," a curved shape in the chassis that changes its behavior according to the load and speed. And that's very delicate and complicated. Although if you manage to master it, it's obviously a beast. And since we're talking about seconds... who knows?
Furthermore, the engine isn't performing at its full potential. Partly because we're experimenting with the chassis and partly because of the damn vibrations, which could also stem from such a peculiar chassis concept. Chassis, suspension, gearbox, and the MGU-K's position.
The car and its engine feel "sluggish" on fast sections and don't stand out in slow corners either. It also seems to have inherited some steering instability, although the electric power delivery isn't exactly smooth, and this could mitigate the previous impression.
I think Newey has taken a risk, and I have no problem with that. I would have done the same. I also think that, all things considered, Honda has aimed for 80-90% performance to maintain some certainty during testing. The bad news is that real testing doesn't start until now, two races behind schedule.
Hmm... if ... as I believe, Newey has opted for the winning formula, but it hasn't worked yet... and if Honda is being conservative as usual... if they manage to make the necessary adjustments so that everything works well... and they manage to progress gradually... perhaps they won't have to build a completely new car.
By the way, Suzuka is my favorite circuit, but I don't like the new F1 regulations with the batteries and all that; I hope they change them.
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
Cadillac is a new team with a bad chassis but will progress and have a Ferrari engine, so I think Aston will stay last for long time.
Target is to finish the race tomorrow but I don't see it happen.
Do you think it is useful ? I mean, I think by now they have all the data they need to understand what is wrong
“ There are a couple of ideas going on but in F1 nothing happens overnight. You have to spend a couple of months with this car, it's not worth changing many things about this car if it's going to change completely in two months”
“ There is a huge potential in the car and in the engine”
Alonso said they have a lot of things in testing internally very positive but won’t get together until August, as they said at the begining
“ There are a couple of ideas going on but in F1 nothing happens overnight. You have to spend a couple of months with this car, it's not worth changing many things about this car if it's going to change completely in two months”
“ There is a huge potential in the car and in the engine”
Alonso said they have a lot of things in testing internally very positive but won’t get together until August, as they said at the begining
AMR and Honda is better off building a completely new engine and car now, instead of hoping for quick fix.
“ There are a couple of ideas going on but in F1 nothing happens overnight. You have to spend a couple of months with this car, it's not worth changing many things about this car if it's going to change completely in two months”
“ There is a huge potential in the car and in the engine”
Alonso said they have a lot of things in testing internally very positive but won’t get together until August, as they said at the begining
If the car is great and pu is poor why does the car need to be completely changed by August.the topspeed on alonso car was as good as those from top teams .Aston has now fallen behind Cadillac their latest update do not work. The team know more about their shortcomings than fans so the car is not all that,so people so just be patient and wait for spec b
i just hope honda push for performance over reliability at this point. rather see the car compete then dnf compared to just trundling around the back
I expect that even if the car is still down on some power, just getting on top of integration and reliability woes will go a long way in improving the competitiveness, along with allowing them to start finishing races of course. Having such serious integration problems with a powertrain in F1 is likely causing all manner of unwanted chassis characteristics, given how structurally important it is near the center of mass of the car.
Fundamentally understanding where you were going wrong with the design/integration of the power unit is also pretty foundational to knowing where you can push for more performance as well. No use chasing pure performance if it's only going to lead you sideways or even backwards on fixing the integration and reliability problems.
“ There are a couple of ideas going on but in F1 nothing happens overnight. You have to spend a couple of months with this car, it's not worth changing many things about this car if it's going to change completely in two months”
“ There is a huge potential in the car and in the engine”
Alonso said they have a lot of things in testing internally very positive but won’t get together until August, as they said at the begining
If the car is great and pu is poor why does the car need to be completely changed by August.the topspeed on alonso car was as good as those from top teams .Aston has now fallen behind Cadillac their latest update do not work. The team know more about their shortcomings than fans so the car is not all that,so people so just be patient and wait for spec b
They're good at one short piece between turns 14 and turns 15 but everywhere else, they are very slow.
1 - Down the straight into turn 1 they're 20 KPH slower than Piastri and Leclerc (They lose .5 of lap time before turn 1).
2 - 10 KPH down through the Ss
3 - 5 KPH down between turns 7 and 8.
4 - 10 KPH between 9 and 10
5 - 20 KPH between 12 and 13
There is a lot of evidence that the PU is down on power and a lot of evidence that they are late gettting on the throttle coming out of corners. Meaning lack of traction, too heavy, etc.
We don't know how much extra fuel they're carrying, how much weight in counter measures they're carrying. Lots of unknowns. A car that's 40KG heavier is gonna be slower in all turns than the 40KG lighter car.
. It would be good to see the telemetry traces to see how they are 1.5 seconds slower in sector 1 alone. This team needs the month off to regroup and show something positive in Miami. If they are still 3 seconds slower by that race then this season is completely screwed. Honda needs to start work on an all new engine as they revealed it was indeed the ICE causing the damn vibrations. I will not be surprised if Stroll is calling Audi to get that motor for next season as the chances Honda can fix this 
show anytime soon is close to zero. The Audi Pu seems somewhat competitive, and perhaps will be refined further for next year. 
