Valtteri Bottas took off from pole and drove a faultless race to win the Turkish Grand Prix where intermediate tyres were the choice of the day. Verstappen finished second to take over the Championship lead while Sergio Perez completed the podium.
They didn’t give him any choice. They brought him out right in front of Gasly. Verstappen had all the space and time in the world to bring his up to temperature. Completely different scenario.nzjrs wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:37Yes, but if would have not pushed as hard then he wouldn't have grained them. Max didn't grain his. On balance it could have been faster for Hamilton to go 0.5s slower on the first lap.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:34Everyone was slower on the new inters after the first lap as they just started graining. Once through the graining phase, everyone gained lots of pace. It was a just a straight forward bad call by the team as it was too late in the race after everyone else had gone through the pain.
you do realize there was only 7 laps left and he needed to close the gap asap... you saw how long he was stuck behind perez.... there was no choice but to risk it. it really just shows how much better the bridgestone intermediates were compared to these marshmallow tyres...nzjrs wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:42Hamilton had gaps either side when he came out. A slower outlap could have helped here. He seemed a bit pissed off, maybe the team should have intervened with a target lap time to stop him over pushing and graining the tires. Arguably another mistake from the MB pit wall there.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:38Max had space to do it. He wasn't dropped back in to a battle. This isn't about Hamilton messing up, it was the strategy team believing the computer over the driver in conditions where the driver knows what the car is doing.
There's a difference between the excitement for the driver who spend the whole race sat a few seconds behind the race leader, and the fans who watched the race ebbing flowing elsewhere in the field.
See ya in the next week's race thread lads.mzivtins wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:46The inters graining were indicative of the track nature, you cannot avoid it happening due to the tread running over dry abrasive surface.nzjrs wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:42Hamilton had gaps either side when he came out. A slower outlap could have helped here. He seemed a bit pissed off, maybe the team should have intervened with a target lap time to stop him over pushing and graining the tires. Arguably another mistake from the MB pit wall there.
no one driver managed this better than the next, it was simply a phase all had to go through, I feel like you are splitting hairs to favour one driver over the other with absolutely zero basis in fact.
That strategy was lame and they messed up Sainz' pitstop. They both drove great races, such a waste...
F1 cars routinely weigh 1000kg in race trim these days. The weight plus the power and downforce means that those Bridgestone tyres of old would simply not last maybe 5 laps. This isn't to say that Bridgestone could not do a better job than Pirelli, but certainly comparing old f1 tyres against current generation and exclaiming the old ones would do better is wrong in every possible parametercplchanb wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:49you do realize there was only 7 laps left and he needed to close the gap asap... you saw how long he was stuck behind perez.... there was no choice but to risk it. it really just shows how much better the bridgestone intermediates were compared to these marshmallow tyres...
i can agree with that better... i was relying on the only graphic shown on sky...Just_a_fan wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 15:47Sainz got DOTD. Presumably for having a good first half of the race working his way through the field from the back of the field.
Relative to Lec and Oco performance on same age tyres, do you believe that Ham would have lost positions by staying out?
